New to Porsche and haverookie questions
11-23-2014, 04:24 PM
#17
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I think that I have a pretty good handle on what these cars are worth. Every new customer that calls me I kindly ask what they paid for there car. With that information, I can say that across the board the 996TT that is under 60K miles has increased in price $5 to 7K from the depressed lows a few years ago. Cars that are OVER 100K miles are trading around $30K.. I think that the bulk of the daily driven 996TT are now in the 80K to 120K miles. I have also seen a premium paid for clean low miles cars. Put another way, folks are willing to spend $45-55K for low mile cars.
Cars that have over 70K have wear, gearboxes, front diffs, wheel bearings, interior plastic wear, leather wear and so forth. There is a difference between sitting in a 20K mile car and a 80K mile car let alone getting up on the lift or driving the car. The garage queen 996TT that is a weekend driver is not even close to a 100K or 120K mile car and one will pay accordingly.
Time will cause repair bills on a low miles car and higher mileage car. Spoiler hydraulics, slave cylinder, and coolant system. But generally the lower mileage car will have LESS wear and one will pay more for this car and pay less in repair cost (statically).
Cars that have over 70K have wear, gearboxes, front diffs, wheel bearings, interior plastic wear, leather wear and so forth. There is a difference between sitting in a 20K mile car and a 80K mile car let alone getting up on the lift or driving the car. The garage queen 996TT that is a weekend driver is not even close to a 100K or 120K mile car and one will pay accordingly.
Time will cause repair bills on a low miles car and higher mileage car. Spoiler hydraulics, slave cylinder, and coolant system. But generally the lower mileage car will have LESS wear and one will pay more for this car and pay less in repair cost (statically).
Kevin, I would be really interested in hearing your perspective on pricing, esp. since you're on the West Coast.
11-23-2014, 04:34 PM
#18
I appreciate all the feedback from you all. With the price point of around 40-45 grand for a low model turbo I may have to turn my attention back torwards the 4s. Having never driven one let alone own one would I really even notice the difference between a turbo and a 4s. More importantly would I be satisfied with a 4s?
11-23-2014, 05:02 PM
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The old phrase "Champagne taste Beer Money" Something has to give...
$35K for a low mile (less than 35K) 996TT is not happening today.. 70 to 80K tippy with a woody interior package maybe.. The craiglist ad, showing 99K miles for mid to upper $30's..
$35K for a low mile (less than 35K) 996TT is not happening today.. 70 to 80K tippy with a woody interior package maybe.. The craiglist ad, showing 99K miles for mid to upper $30's..
11-23-2014, 05:09 PM
#20
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Atrox said, " Having never driven one let alone own one would I really [I]even notice the difference[/I] between a turbo and a 4s. More importantly would I be satisfied with a 4s?".
296 hp v 420 hp are you kidding?
296 hp v 420 hp are you kidding?
11-23-2014, 05:24 PM
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well, thats exactly what they were! but you ( seemingly?) unlike many tech/mechanics, like to educate your clients, even at the possible expense of more work. i have people like that on my "crew" also.
11-23-2014, 05:28 PM
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I appreciate all the feedback from you all. With the price point of around 40-45 grand for a low model turbo I may have to turn my attention back torwards the 4s. Having never driven one let alone own one would I really even notice the difference between a turbo and a 4s. More importantly would I be satisfied with a 4s?
satisfied? sure, if you never drive or have driven a turbo porsche, i suppose it's "possible" to be satisfied with a 4s. its still a 911 LOL..
but hell no lol
11-23-2014, 07:21 PM
#23
Three Wheelin'
I appreciate all the feedback from you all. With the price point of around 40-45 grand for a low model turbo I may have to turn my attention back torwards the 4s. Having never driven one let alone own one would I really even notice the difference between a turbo and a 4s. More importantly would I be satisfied with a 4s?
I've test driven both 996 Carerras 4s and TTs during my search. There's a huge difference in performance obviously, it's not even in the same ballpark.
The turbo car's big torque and ability to be easily tuned for more power makes it a no brainer for me....
Good luck with whatever you end up with.
11-24-2014, 12:32 AM
#24
Used high end cars are like used high end airplanes. You can buy a Learjet 25 for under $150K now but a thorough annual inspection will easily cost you over $100K and an engine overhaul over $500K. The purchase price of 996TTs is nothing relative to what some maintenance can run you. I would say that you should have at least 30% of your purchase price set aside for unexpected maintenance costs. If you plan on tracking these cars, plan about $500 per hour for operating expenses at a minimum and that is if you do most of your wrenching.
11-24-2014, 01:55 AM
#25
I appreciate all the input, and informative info, and after sitting down with the wife she's agreed to let me push my limit to $47k and I hope with that I'm in a little better area to be a little more picky. I told her that I don't want to limit my options and if I'm already in at 35 what's another 12 grand especially since I just dropped that on granite for the kitchen. (12 grand on rock Fml).
11-24-2014, 09:55 AM
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You can have pick of the litter with $47k. Enjoy the hunt.
11-24-2014, 11:07 AM
#29
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You'll find one for that price that should fully satisfy your needs.
Try to find one with full service records and look for: spoiler rams, clutch slave cylinder, clutch accumulator, coil packs, cam solenoid bracket, expansion tank, and coolant pipes. The first three are generally the most common.
Have a good/full PPI done, then use it to negotiate the price with the seller.
These cars are addictive! It will be very hard to go back to a N/A car again.
Try to find one with full service records and look for: spoiler rams, clutch slave cylinder, clutch accumulator, coil packs, cam solenoid bracket, expansion tank, and coolant pipes. The first three are generally the most common.
Have a good/full PPI done, then use it to negotiate the price with the seller.
These cars are addictive! It will be very hard to go back to a N/A car again.
