F1CrazyDriver

You make your own conclusion.

gt3 seats
roll bar
350mm/6 pots
Gt2 brake ducks
2 pc front rotors
2 pc rear rotors
Gt2 rear sway
Front trg droplinks
Rear tarret droplinks
Rennline motor mounts
997 tranny mount
Oz wheels gt 2 offsets
Wheel stud conversion
Fix rear wing mount
Cf gruppem gurney flap on rear wing
Adjustable dog bones
Adjustable rear toe links
Adjustable control arms
Umw flash
exhaust
Gt2rs intercoolers
964 lwfw w gt2rs clutch
Kw clubs ports
Rear wiper delete
997ssk
Lw battery kit / battery
Gt2 front liners
Cup car brake duc cooling
Rear strut bar
Front strut bar
2 pc control arms gt3/2

I'm sure i missed a few things.

dhc3

The 996TT could be considered boring, if worry about IMS issues in a stock 996 motor was considered stimulating. Gotta love the Metzger motor.

powdrhound

I have a few light mods and the car is night and day compared to a stock turbo. With the right mods these cars can be very potent machines (and not only in a straight line).

James88

OK I think you win.........

James88

Check this new post out RS10.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...o-go-back.html

James88

Check out this new post RS10.

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-turb...o-go-back.html

rs10

Thanks for the helpful suggestions!

Why the ecu? Any benefits other than more power? (Seems to me it has enough power to be "awake" as is.)

Also, I would fear the bypass would not be the way for me, because while I'm looking for a good sound on half or full throttle, I'm not looking for much of a volume increase while cruising. Make sense?

rs10

Well, I can make some conclusions - for instance, the brake upgrades probably don't contribute much on the street, and I'd fear the KW club sports take something away, at least where I drive. But what about the rest? Can you provide some guidance about what only "wakes it up" on the track, and what is necessary for the street?

Thanks!

jumper5836

415 to at least 480 hp and torque. I've driven the 415 GT3 and 450 RS. Believe me 480+ torque makes the other Porsche's feel snail like. On the street boost is intoxicating as well there is so much torque you can drive in a gear higher up while taking it easy on the street.

I find that once mine is up to temp and driving around that the sound level is not that bad. When cold it is much louder. Once warmed up I talk on the phone and yes sometimes people notice I am driving but it doesn't effect the conversation.
Research the exhaust. There should be the right one for you.

Mark Dreyer

I've owned both a 996 GT3 and my current 996TT. I disagree with your assertion. To me the TT rides like a town car compared to the GT3, which is closer in comfort to a shifter cart! My "current ex-wife" (to borrow a funny line from Terry Eastwood) took one ride in my "3", complained of a backache for a week, and never rode in it again.

Mark Dreyer

I need to do this. I run a weekend at the track in my Boxster race car, then drive my TT on Monday and feel like I'm going to lose her in a turn. Ironically enough, I feel more confident taking my Touareg through a cloverleaf at a decent clip than I do my TT! Way too much body roll for my taste. What particular suspension mod would you recommend to achieve less body roll while also maintaining some level of street comfort? I haven't read the entire thread so if this question is answered later don't bother repeating info.

Mark Dreyer

I just did the 3 day Skippy race school in the MX-5 race car this past weekend. That car is just as much fun as a Porsche, albeit slower (in the straights).

rs10

It still surprises me that many people say reprogramming the ECU is necessary to liven the car up - and also say that the only benefit is more power. I would think power is the one thing this car is not missing - many cars with less power are lively enough, including the nearly identical C4S.

Could it be that a reprogrammed car feels more lively because the torque curve has more of a peak, like a normally aspirated engine? Or because - counter intuitively - it has more lag? (Getting a lot more power from a Turbo typically does require more lag.)

To paraphrase David Vivian in Evo, there are three main types of acceleration: high-rev howl like a modern Ferrari V8, effortless torque like an AMG V8, and Turbo boOOST. Vivian claimed that no matter how fast the car, you eventually get used to the acceleration and it becomes less interesting - unless it has boOOST, in which case even a not-so-fast car remains interesting. But I suspect that as the name implies, if there's no lag, then it's just boost, not boOOST. Similarly someone mentioned earlier in this thread that he had great fun in his old Saab Viggen, and if it was anything like the 900 turbo my parents had, then it had boOOST.

It seems to me the stock 996 Turbo has so little lag that it is kind of like an AMG V8, except with a linear torque curve and no V8 sound effects.

Anyway - a question for people who feel reprogramming is necessary to make the car lively: Is it really more power than makes the difference, or a less flat Torque curve, or more lag?

jumper5836

The ecu flash also changes the throttle response and makes it respond quicker. The smaller turbos in the tt non x50 have very little lag, when I first got the car I couldn't even tell there was any lag until I got used to the boost. Now I know I can use that small fraction of a sec to get on the gas early out of the corner and then have boost kick in at the perfect time.

Making it lively for the street to me, means having quicker throttle response and more boost and acceleration power. The stock suspension is to bobbly for the acceleration the ecu flash makes and the braking that this car can handle. That's why so many people recommend a suspension upgrade. All the all suspension bits mentioned transform the car into a nice tight handling package which probably is too hard for everyday street use. Though the adjustable coilovers can be set fairly soft so can make it more comfortable for the street.

"02996ttx50

a stock 96t isn't "missing" power per se, it's a relative term the definition of which will be felt instantly ( any lag notwithstanding lol ) when comparing a stock vs tuned car.

simply put, it feels more "lively" because it has more power. the greater degree of "lag" you speak of is far more apparent in a stock k24 car than it is with a stock k16, but then, so is the power. getting more power out of this car with mods will NOT necessarily contribute to MORE lag, in fact it will help to bring about nearly instant BOOST ( from 2500 up ) if one were to run hybrid 16/24's for example, or any quicker spooling setup.


if by "stock" you mean a k16, then you'd be right. although again, a "stock" k24 ( x50 ) car will have lag issues that are troublesome to many, though "neck snapping" to all, once they hit their stride. this in spite of the remap to the ecu from the factory. it's just the loss of low end boost tradeoff from a k16 car, in a stock x50 that makes the lag so noticeable.

it's the combination of more power and less lag. for sure. at the end of the day, a tuned car vs stock IS night and day, and the difference will be felt dramatically.