rDaley

So I recently bought my 996 and I am thrilled with it. Was just trolling ebay (a habit which lead to my recent purchase) and saw that 993s are like 50% more expensive than 996. That's an eyeball percentage, not an analytic conclusion but the low mileage 996 TT cabs are about $50K and the mid-milage 993 TT Coupes are about $70K. I know the 993 was the last air cooled, but does that drive the big price gap? The 996 has better performance stats. Any thoughts?

Silberwolfen

I came close to buying a 993 Turbo over in NoVa, but they were wildly overpriced, and finding one in really good condition was tough. When they would pop up on the market people were wanting $70K to $80K for them. They are the last of the air-cooled 911s before PAG went to the water-cooled platform with the 996. It's more nostalgia than anything else---that drives the demand.

I think they look better than the 996.

jumper5836

Nostalgia, ascetics and that only 2,662 produced compared to the 20k 996tt produced.

CincyScott

+1. Supply and demand.

turbo4 me

This has been debated recently, some 996tt owners are sensitive about it. They aren't making air cooled cars anymore, and the 993 is an over engineered masterpiece. It is not nearly as as fast as the 996tt (although the 993tt is no slouch), but those cars look great, drive great, and as far as I am concerned are classics. As Jumper said, there were way more 996tt's produced, so you have a flooded market 996tt vs the market starved 993.

Both are great cars, I have owned both, I just wish I kept my 993-

rob0001

Hey but we got a proven aircooled design engine with watercooled technology (in a undervalued 996 wrapping)

Land Jet

To some the 993 looks better, but the 996TT is a way better all around car.

Silberwolfen

There were 175,262 P996 models produced by PAG worldwide and of that 28,813 were Turbos (including GT2 and GT3). That is what I see from my source books. So yes, the limited numbers of 993 Turbos is going to drive the demand. I was really lusting after the 993T for a while because I think it is the most sexy 911 ever made---but I couldn't see spending that premium for something. If m oney wasn't an issue---I'd have one of those, too.

jumper5836

These are the production numbers when I looked into it. I didn't include GT2 or the GT3.

Turbo world production:

2000 with 16,
2001 with 5324, GT2 247
2002 with 5908, GT-2 716
2003 with 4322, GT-2 233, turbo cabriolet 308
2004 with 1273, GT-2 73, turbo cabriolet 3099, turbo s coupe 2, turbo s cabriolet 3
2005 with 122, GT-2 18, turbo cabriolet 127, turbo s coupe 598 turbo s cabriolet 960

Total 16,965, GT-2 1,287, turbo cabriolet 3,534, turbo s coupe 600, turbo s cabriolet 960

North American production:

996TT total - 9,180
2001 Coupe: 2418
2002 Coupe: 2318
2003 Coupe: 1384
2003 Cab: 482
2004 Coupe: 298
2004 Cab: 1490
2005 Coupe: 186
2005 Cab: 604

Dans996tt

Wonder why the 04 and 05 sales figures were so low for coupes. Is my white 04 X50 PCCB one of just a few like it?

Dan

jumper5836

probably because the 997.1 was out and the cabs and Turbo S's were just released.

Misplacedyankee

Well there just was another white unicorn sold the other day. I wonder though how many 2004 X50s with PCCBs there are. My 2004 cab is setup that way as well and when I was looking might have seen one other with that combo and a hefty sticker. Technically the same as the Turbo S that was only in 2005. Not sure that rarity will be worth much long term. I figure though prices won't drop to far down from where they are today. Maybe another 20% at most before leveling off for good (on solid well maintained examples).

Quadcammer

debatable

CincyScott

Yeah, having owned both, I'd argue that too. The 993 feels more nimble and feels more solid when you close the doors. The 996 is more of a cruiser, but I feel the seated position in the 996 is infinitely more comfortable for me in the 6 than the 3.

It's actually too bad I don't have the funds to keep a turbo from every generation

Speedyellow993

Production numbers

993 was more hand assembled.

996tt owners keep bashing asking prices

993tt owners only praise asking prices