BauerR

Did you see my post? Drain whats left and replace with 20w50. They will work again. I'm 8+ years into it with zero issues

Lazurus

No I saw your post, thanks. I was a champion of the re-bleeding process for nearly 15 years and finally gave up. There comes a point where maintaining the OEM setup is not possible without fully rebuilding it. Which of course can be done. I'm just beyond the 90's/00's timeline fascination I once had with Porsche's "movable" spoilers. I've had four of 'em, at last count!

GKTS4

I was looking at the various eRam product offerings, as I'd never heard of this solution before, and notice height references specific to Coupe variants, with one stating the wing height is "between Coupe & Cabrio." Do the Coupes and Cabs have different OEM deployed wing heights? Does anyone know what that difference is?

RennKit-Dave

have a look here: https://rennkit.com/why-factory-set-fails/

GKTS4

I appreciate the informative link, thanks!

Lazurus

If you do get the E-ram? Get the "Ultra Fast" version!

GKTS4

Knock on wood, my spoiler has been deploying and retracting correctly for the time being. But when the eventual need arises, I'll definitely opt for the quick version. Thanks for the tip!

911 Rod

Mine is fixed in the upright position and when someone asks why it doesn't go up and down I tell the price to make it do it.
Every one of them laughs and says pocket the money.
It is a cool feature though.

Lazurus

Exactly! Mine's fixed up also and I don't miss it moving up and down one bit.

I do think it was cooler back on my '94 911! back when the novelty of changeable downforce on a street car was still "new" and they first made it onto our rear 911 decklids.. I remember when guys would leave their spoilers in the "up" position in an attempt to attract new birds ( ok, maybe I did it once, ..twice?! ) but now that I think on it I've had 5 movable winged 911 cars and now when I look in the rearview and see that wing permanently propped up, I think. Better to have risen once, than never to have risen at all!

theprf

I have a power spoiler on my '93 Corrado which still works flawlessly after 31 years and 275k miles. I recently replaced the hydro spoiler on my 39k mile 6TT with E-rams because I was done with fill and bleed on a yearly schedule.

Diego

I installed the fixed wing kit and didn’t look back. Looks better too with the wing up all the time. Another Porsche design that is more complicated than it needs to be and is destined to fail. They should have used an electric wing lift system from the beginning.

Lazurus

Same guy made the "self operating napkin" designed our spoilers. His name? Rube Goldberg. I also finally used my Ebay "bag of bolts" to affix the once proud plumage in the fully extended position.

pfbz

On several different Turbos, I've simply purged/refilled (and used new crush washers), and they are all going strong. My personal Turbo has been going strong with single purge/bleed for many years.

I use the original Pentosin fluid instead of the 20W50 suggested above, but it's a simple hydraulic system, any sort of hydraulic fluid of medium viscosity should work fine.

There are certainly failure modes that might make a complete replacement with something like the e-rams worthwhile, but the most common issue I've seen is:

1) Slight leaks at the rams, right around the crush washers
2) Air bubbles in system.
3) Rams then don't fully extend or become imbalanced left to right
4) The microswitches detect a fault and throw the warning light.

If they had just put a bleed valve on the system, it would be trivial to deal with, but even with no bleed valve, it's pretty easy to remove the rams/hydraulic motor assembly as a sealed unit and repair it on a bench. Cost is a few dollars for some fluid and crush washers.

TommyT

The E-rams save a couple pounds.

larrygk

How do you keep it 100% in the extended position? I just got a 996TT 2003 and the fault comes up although the leaking is not really evident. I have no issues for all the reasons discussed leaving it up. Thanks