evolvedaz

So I get alot of calls on how the flashing works, here is a quick video I put together as we did a flash on a 997 C4s. Enjoy!

View all the Softronic ECU Flash products here - http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/softronic-m-390.html

Background -
Softronic is the only company that uses Porsche factory tuning equipment and tools for the finest software available. Softronic has more than 30 years in fuel injection experience and are the lead company in data checking of Porsche Race Cars.

What are the benefits/functions of going with Softronic compared to the competition?

• Softronic does not require the removal of your ECU from the car. There is no down time at all.
• Softronic reflashing is done via a Client Cable included in the price that is connected to the OBDII port. The customer simply plugs the cable into the car and reads the file with a laptop per the instructions with the cable. Once the file is downloaded, it is emailed to the Softronic secure server where the file is manipulated and then emailed back to the client. The client simply uploads the file and they are done. Total process is about 1 hour during normal business hours. Other accomondations can be made.
• If the client is not comfortable with the simple process, he/she can send the ECU to us to have it bench flashed. The client cable will not be shipped.
• Reflashing is done according to additional modifications (Intake, Headers, Exhaust) to enhance power gains.
• Customer can upgrade to the Data Logging Client Cable which allows them to get real time data analysis with the Softronic Diagnostic Tool.
• View the Instructions on OBDII Reflashing with Softronic Here.

Watch the Video here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl3FkzruqNU

Mr C

what a bunch of lies

TB993tt

This statement implies that the new software programs are developed using the same tools Porsche use, this is as Mr C so unsubtley put it "a lie"

Reading the website this company is (or says it is) at the leading edge of being able to upload new files (and multiple) in the shortest possible time which basically implies the "bolt on" tuners can make more $$$$ as the uploads are simpler and faster....

The MOST important thing about ECU tuning is what is actually contained in the program, how that has been developed, and to do this properly requires expensive engine dynos with appropriate cooling systems...
This can and is done on some chassis dynos, in Europe Manthey do a good job with their Maha and Sportec seem to be able to work well with their Bosch but the cooling systems used are rarely found in any of the "bolt on" shops and without them road conditions cannot be replicated and the programs are "band aid".
It is very likely that the programs which softronic is selling come from a credible source but Softronic themselves did not "use Porsche factory tuning equipment and tools" to write the programs...

evolvedaz

Mr C - what is your proof?

TB993 - I do not have that answer for you. Software does not need a "engine" dyno though. Softronic does work with companies like Protomotive who has an engine dyno and a DynaPak chassis dyno. We have a Mustang Dyno AWD. Several of his clients have DynoJets. Tuning based off lambda and timing tables individually and going off the factory wideband O2 sensors can be done on any vehicle doing the proper datalogging.

Companies like FVD use his servers for loading and transferring files as well. So to the unknown, Softronic is new, but they are VERY involved in the entire Porsche flashing industry.

Mr C

If softronic use the factory tools to tune, then surely you'd be able to name them here publicly. Go ahead please.

evolvedaz

Mr C - all your posts are related to ECU tuning and UMW. What is YOUR background????

I am a reseller. Someone who specializes in marketing, customer service, and vehicle products. I am not a developer, software engineer, or someone who wastestime having a battle on a forum.

If you want to know the exact information about Softronic and why they are superior to the competition - then please contact Scott Slauson directly at www.softronic.us. Right now Mr. Slauson is working with the Hendrick Nascar team and will be back in a week.

Mr C - if you are American, Happy 4th!

Mr C

vividracing: Happy 4th to you. my background is irrelevant.

evolvedaz

Exactly...... Thanks for playing.

TB993tt

This statement implies that the new software programs are developed using the same tools Porsche use, this is as Mr C so unsubtley put it "a lie"

Reading the website this company is (or says it is) at the leading edge of being able to upload new files (and multiple) in the shortest possible time which basically implies the "bolt on" tuners can make more $$$$ as the uploads are simpler and faster....

The MOST important thing about ECU tuning is what is actually contained in the program, how that has been developed, and to do this properly requires expensive engine dynos with appropriate cooling systems...
This can and is done on some chassis dynos, in Europe Manthey do a good job with their Maha and Sportec seem to be able to work well with their Bosch but the cooling systems used are rarely found in any of the "bolt on" shops and without them road conditions cannot be replicated and the programs are "band aid".
It is very likely that the programs which softronic is selling come from a credible source but Softronic themselves did not "use Porsche factory tuning equipment and tools" to write the programs...

Mr C

Exactly the point I was trying to make.

Loren

Just an FYI for those of you with warranties.
From Porsche TSB 5/01 2470 Tampering With DME Map Data -- dated 10-19-01

"Modifications to the hardware and software of the DME control module is not allowed.
Any alterations in the electronics or software (e.g. in order to improve the engine performance) may have various effects, including a change in the permissible values for fuel consumption or exhaust and noise emissions.
Starting with MY’02 911 Turbo (996) and MY’02 911 (996), you are able to perform a system test to see whether the DME map data has been tampered with.

Tampering with the DME map data will void the warranty."

evolvedaz

Softronic is not detectable by the PIWIS tool at all, thus people get Softronic for that purpose with warranty.

TT Surgeon

I don't think that's actually true, the pwis newer software can detect the ecu has been reset. Looks like a good flash idea though, but I'd prefer a bench custom flash.

sharkster

I always tell people the cold, hard fact... you flash your ECU (no matter how good the gains are) then the Porsche is asbolutely within their right to void your warranty. And absolutely they can detect _any_ form of flash/software that has been written to your ECU.

Chuck Jones

Alex is absolutely 100% correct....there is no such thing as an undetectable flash. Any alteration to the ECU will leave "footprints" that Porsche can detect with their forensic software. That's why it's so important to try to develop a good relationship with your Service Manager....he has some discretion in yea/nay insofar as charging off something in spite of a modification...overt or covert. But if Porsche asks for the ECU becasue they question a claim and you've flashed your car...you're S.O.L. insofar as any warranty goes. When you sit down and think about it...let's say you're a VP of Porsche's Service Division....don't you think that the VP answers to the CEO with cost figures for engine repairs or replacements during any of the annual quarterly reports? Don't you think that there are procedural and processing criteria and certain red flags or triggers that Porsche keys on when a claim comes in? They have folks on permanent staff whose job it is to evaluate engine damage and they have the money, tools, and expertise to do so. The newer 997's literally snitch off a whole host of engine performance data so they can accurately evaluate what it was that was going on when the engine or part failed.....sort of like an aircraft's black box recorder.