opinion on high mileaage 996 Turbo
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Jason,
What is the asking price? Let us know how low it goes. The more I think about it, the more I think you could get in in low 40's. There won't be huge demand, and you won't cry if this one gets away. AS
What is the asking price? Let us know how low it goes. The more I think about it, the more I think you could get in in low 40's. There won't be huge demand, and you won't cry if this one gets away. AS
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Alexander,
Asking price was $49k. After a little more research and some thought I think I am going to keep looking for a little lower mileage car. Thanks to all for your help / opinions.
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Asking price was $49k. After a little more research and some thought I think I am going to keep looking for a little lower mileage car. Thanks to all for your help / opinions.
Jason
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There is no difference between a 50k car or a 90k car as long as it has some service history and passes a PPI. Age will be the primary factor for wear and tear not mileage.930's last well into the 120-140k miles without ever opening the motor, I see a 951 in your pic and those things have taken a ton of abuse from countless owners and routinely clicking 180 -200k miles........but both cars are using inferior technology than the 996tt.
Porsche builds cars that usually last, same with Daimler, in the US the cars get pampered, in Europe they get driven like they were stolen, rain,snow,farm roads and 8 out of ten parked outside bumper to bumper.
With any car you are going to take a chance. new or used, some blow, some don't, warranty helps and btw, you can get a extended warranty up to a 100 k even if it has already 90 on it.
As far as no demand for a low 40's 996tt, lol, in any metropolitan it would be picked up by a poser in a heart beat, generic Lexless or C320 vs 996tt.........no brainer.
Porsche builds cars that usually last, same with Daimler, in the US the cars get pampered, in Europe they get driven like they were stolen, rain,snow,farm roads and 8 out of ten parked outside bumper to bumper.
With any car you are going to take a chance. new or used, some blow, some don't, warranty helps and btw, you can get a extended warranty up to a 100 k even if it has already 90 on it.
As far as no demand for a low 40's 996tt, lol, in any metropolitan it would be picked up by a poser in a heart beat, generic Lexless or C320 vs 996tt.........no brainer.
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Pole, I have gone thru this process lately and have seen the selection of car in multiple cities by flying in myself and doing the PPI.. You have more wear on everything.. Seats, steering wheel, *****, doors latches and hinges, lights are sandblasted, under pinnings have more road rash.. Pay a few extra buck to get a lower mileage car.. There are plenty one owner cars available.
And very few 930's make it to 140K without opening them up to replace P/C's and valve guides...
And very few 930's make it to 140K without opening them up to replace P/C's and valve guides...
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Kevin. we agree in principal and yes only a few 930's make it to 140K, but my point was that 87K miles on a 996tt is not a death sentence and not every buyer is as knowledgeable or picky as you.
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Pole,
i think the question on value is 'What alternatives are available in that price range?" and "What expenses am I likely to incur compared to my alternatives?" There is no queation to me that the market for high-mileage expensive cars dries up pretty fast, and ultimately approaches a very low baseline, approximating parts value. I would guess the same car at 120,000 miles would be worth less than $20,000. At that point, the decision becomes drive it til it dies, or sell for whatever you can get.AS
i think the question on value is 'What alternatives are available in that price range?" and "What expenses am I likely to incur compared to my alternatives?" There is no queation to me that the market for high-mileage expensive cars dries up pretty fast, and ultimately approaches a very low baseline, approximating parts value. I would guess the same car at 120,000 miles would be worth less than $20,000. At that point, the decision becomes drive it til it dies, or sell for whatever you can get.AS
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Originally Posted by Alexander Stemer
Pole,
i think the question on value is 'What alternatives are available in that price range?" and "What expenses am I likely to incur compared to my alternatives?" There is no queation to me that the market for high-mileage expensive cars dries up pretty fast, and ultimately approaches a very low baseline, approximating parts value. I would guess the same car at 120,000 miles would be worth less than $20,000. At that point, the decision becomes drive it til it dies, or sell for whatever you can get.AS
i think the question on value is 'What alternatives are available in that price range?" and "What expenses am I likely to incur compared to my alternatives?" There is no queation to me that the market for high-mileage expensive cars dries up pretty fast, and ultimately approaches a very low baseline, approximating parts value. I would guess the same car at 120,000 miles would be worth less than $20,000. At that point, the decision becomes drive it til it dies, or sell for whatever you can get.AS
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I find it hard to believe that a 120K mile 996TT would be worth less then 20K when that is carrera, 964, and some 993 value at about that mileage ![Confused](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Originally Posted by jimq
I find it hard to believe that a 120K mile 996TT would be worth less then 20K when that is carrera, 964, and some 993 value at about that mileage ![Confused](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
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Pole,
Never? There are a lot of 996tt's out there. A buyer would need to think about the cost of a clutch, trans, turbos, tuneup etc., not to mention somebody like Pierre needing a crated engine for ?$22,000.
A 120K miles car at 20 grand can be a 120K car costing 45 grand before you blink. Any buyer would be better off with a newer, more expensive, lower miles car. The number of people who can afford to repair these cars is limited. But, time will tell who comes closer to divining the market. AS
Never? There are a lot of 996tt's out there. A buyer would need to think about the cost of a clutch, trans, turbos, tuneup etc., not to mention somebody like Pierre needing a crated engine for ?$22,000.
A 120K miles car at 20 grand can be a 120K car costing 45 grand before you blink. Any buyer would be better off with a newer, more expensive, lower miles car. The number of people who can afford to repair these cars is limited. But, time will tell who comes closer to divining the market. AS
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Originally Posted by Alexander Stemer
Pole,
Never? There are a lot of 996tt's out there. A buyer would need to think about the cost of a clutch, trans, turbos, tuneup etc., not to mention somebody like Pierre needing a crated engine for ?$22,000.
A 120K miles car at 20 grand can be a 120K car costing 45 grand before you blink. Any buyer would be better off with a newer, more expensive, lower miles car. The number of people who can afford to repair these cars is limited. But, time will tell who comes closer to divining the market. AS
Never? There are a lot of 996tt's out there. A buyer would need to think about the cost of a clutch, trans, turbos, tuneup etc., not to mention somebody like Pierre needing a crated engine for ?$22,000.
A 120K miles car at 20 grand can be a 120K car costing 45 grand before you blink. Any buyer would be better off with a newer, more expensive, lower miles car. The number of people who can afford to repair these cars is limited. But, time will tell who comes closer to divining the market. AS
Again, I went back to cars.com, but this time searched for all 911 Turbos from all years:
1986 Porsche 911 Turbo, 112,000 miles = $25,000
1988 Porsche 911 Turbo, 89,500 miles = $33,000
1991 Porsche 911 Turbo, 93,600 miles = $42,584
1997 Porsche 911 Turbo, 56,139 miles = $69,500
2002 Porsche 911 Turbo, 84,194 miles = $49,995
2003 Porsche 911 Turbo, 54,748 miles = $67,900
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I still cant believe that 993TT's go for as much as they do. Not to say that the 993 is not a great car but when you can buy a 02 03 for as much or less. Help me understand, is it the last of the air cooled b.s. I have been looking for a 02 03 TT and have seen countless 993's for more with same or more miles.
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I dont mean to ask and its none of my business, but why are you looking at a turbo with such high mileage? I mean its up there but these cars are relatively "bulletproof" and last a long time, depending on how it was treated in those miles as well. Get a PPI done and def. an extended warranty of some sort, even an aftermarket warranty!