BC

Boost Addict -

Please do not think that just because on Dealership is going to try and shut down your claim, that you will not be successfull in other dealerships. Is your car well within the warantee period? Did you tell them that the car was dragged? If these answers are yes, and then no, then you should be able to get the car fixed. Hoehn Porsche is a known place of somewhat questionable Dealings. I have no FIRST hand knowledge, as I am personally mad at Porsche for making my car an out of production orphan (please no responses on that - I'll have to call the 928 list over to this board). I have, however, heard that thier practices boarder on bad customer service, etc. Why don't you go to the Mirimar porsche dealership? What about some of the dealerships in LA? Why would you want to spend money when you don't have to? You should rightly get that cr fixed EVEN IF YOU DID race it a bit. Its a high performance vehicle. (Drag or no drag not to be commented on here). Get the car fixed correctly under warrantee, and THEN uprgade it if you choose. Call and Write to Porsche NA and explain the situation (leave out the vette race) and that you just spend XXX,000 dollars on a car and you expect to be treaded much better than this. You are a customer thatthey would want to buy another Porsche - maybe you needed an SUV? Make them cater to you. You have spent the money, and deserve the good treatment.
Back in Chicago, I hung around some of those tatooed idiots that drive those "crappy" cars like Vettes and Z-28s. Sometimes they overreved, and overreving a Chevy makes for broken push rods, and bent valves (can you say FLOAT) - the dealerships usually fixed it ONCE, but if the same guy did it again(it happened) they said UGH - NO.
So try quite a bit harderto get it fixed under warantee. You paid for the warantee when you purchased the car. Use it.


Also - could you email me off board at:
brenclare@worldnet.att.net and tell me where these races are? I'm in Mission Valley

Perry 951

[quote] It seems like it's a corporate edict to be reluctant to make warrany repairs. The VW forums are filled with similar stories. Some guys are even being denied warranty work because intalling stereo gear(supposedly) is throwing fault codes into the DME. How that affects a transmission is unclear. <hr></blockquote>

So true. My best friend has a 2001 GTI 1.8 with 18,000 miles on it. It has a HR coilover kit, Remus Exhaust, and 17's. It conctantly goes into limp mode showing an overboost condtion, diverter valve failure, and now a Mass flow failure. It has been into the shop 8 times over the last 6 months. It has had 4 diverter valves, 1 mass flow, a cat, a DME, and now a turbo. After this last time, the dealer said they would not fix it anymore stating that "The aftermarket suspension has compromised the integrety of the car"

Needless to say there are multiple lawyers drooling for this case.

Cutter

If these cars can't take a little bit of racing they should be pushed off a cliff. For those people that buy it just to put in there garages and showboat on Sundays are not buying the car for what it is ment for. They just do cause they can afford it and say that they have a TT. You buy a sports car to drive a sports car. I would like to also add that I have friends with tatoo's that have money drive nice cars and would not appreciate that comment.

turbofun

boostaddict, If I were you I would stay away from mirimar porsche also. I have had nothing but trouble from them. Seems like it is a sevice policy to at first refuse warranty work due to a over rev also. Just recently I had a timing chain tensioner nighmare over there. Defenently forget you ever tried to launch your car hard, that night with the vetts, never happened because these porsche dealers seem to make up the bottom line on Bull **** warrenty declines. Or they try to at least. My car now has started to make a noise that sounded alot like a loose tranny mount, or motor mount. I took it in because they just had everything apart and put back together. They tell me the car has been over reved again but this time by over 4000 rpm and this time the flywheel broke. I tell them to give me my car because it drove and shifted and ran perfect, just had a very small thump noise on slight accell, and decell, and I'm going to see my attorney to talk about this. The service rep steps out , then come back and says the service manager just aproved the work so would you like a rental car. I take the damn rental and I am now looking for a good independent porsche repair shop the can do porsche warrnty work on 996 cars. That may not exist in my area but I'm going to look.
And Brenden I would not group all corvetts and camaros in to the crap catagory. (why did you leave out mustangs?) I live in san diego also and I know of alot of these so called crap cars that would embarrass you pretty good in your 928. Im not saying that 928's are crap infact I really like them. And I know that enough money spent in modifications on any car can improve the handling, accelleration ect. So I'm just saying watch out for the domestics because most will have somthing to prove to you and you might just wind up with crap stains all over your back from them running you over.

Steve N.

My comments are not likely to be popular with some . First of all, I have a basic problem with the general acceptance of dishonesty which a few of the posts reflect. If you drag race the car and miss shifts, you are at great risk of a transmission problem - I don't care what kind of car it is. If someone wants to treat their car this way, fine, but don't lie to the dealer when you try to get the factory to pay for your mistake. And by the way, there is no free lunch - warranty repair, like any other cost, must be recovered through the sales price of vehicles, so we all ultimately pay. In addition, I will side with the respondents who think the dragging enthusiasts are oddly misplaced. Hey, I think drag racing is a cool sport. Not on the street, by the way, which is where the missed shifts happened. The design of our cars may be unsurpassed in terms of overall performance capability - better than a 360 Modena, for example, and at much less cost. But they are not optimized for drag racing. Thank God - as this would involve sacrificing other elements of performance. So I would encourage the dragging boys to sell their P cars and buy something which suits their interests. And please stop complaining that a car which cost this much out to be able to.......

pig4bill

Well, let's not get too crazy.

[quote]Originally posted by Steve N. 996TT:
<strong>The design of our cars may be unsurpassed in terms of overall performance capability - better than a 360 Modena, for example, and at much less cost.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Phil

I just had a warrenty claim denied on my 2002 mbz s500. I leased the car in 12/01, tinted the windows. 5 days ago the passenger window stopped working. I took the car in to the dealer, a few hours later they called to tell me "we cannot cover the window motor under warrenty" because the "windows have been tinted"!!!! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> It seems during the window tinting process, the water too make the adesive stick dripped down the window(inside) mbz policy is...if the window motor show signs of water damage, and the windows are tinted. they will deny the warrenty claim! <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />

Jeff C

Flat6
What kind of times were you getting in the quarter? Last time I was out at the drag strip there was a 996TT that ran once, a 12.5

Brendon,
Be careful of the stereotypes! The last car that wanted to race me was a 928. Was burning off his tires next to me at the light. Nice kids, a bit over weight with baseball caps with their fishing licenses still attached. After pulling them pretty badly them they wanted to go again, this time in a 25mph residential neighborhood. I asked him what he had in it (any mods) and he responded "302 baby!” I declined the second race on residential streets. He told me he had been racing numerous vettes, mustangs etc that day and I was the only car he had lost to. Car sounded nice and has been the only Porsche that was interested in running. I've always liked the 928s...
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BC

TurboFun -

Yes, I wanted to try and clarify my statements. That sentence was meant to be sarcastic. I guess it was lost on you boost heads

I meant to put "crap" in quotes because I do not believe. in fact, that these cars are at all inferior - just for different jobs. SO again, I must clarify. These cars can trounce my *** if they wanted to out of a stop light, and I have to work at it above 60 to make sure they stay behind me. My brotherhas a 97X-28, and it maybe a sh*tbox for repairs, but it s a damn fine car otherwise.

And if in fact Mirimar is a bad dealer as well, I am sorry I suggested it. I was hoping they were not, just in case I could refer them to my clients. Thats not going to happen now. Good info, bad news.

BC

Jeff-
Either I have to work on my writing, or Ihave to stop being sarcastic if it won't come across correctly. Or we could lighten up a a bit.

I don't think the domestics, NOR the Japanese street racers are bad. They have thier place in life just as much as a minivan.

ON you rpoint about the 928 - what year was it? Round bumper or pointy? Big rear wing or small? And why were overweight teenagers driving it?

The "302 Baby" comment made me ill. Yes, it is a 5 liter V-8 (after 83 I believe?), but if they wanted a 302, then they probably should have purchased a Ford. Technically speaking, I am not even sure it is IS a 302 cubic inch. I think its a bit less.

Also- the residential street thing was bad too. Glad you didn't race them. They will eventually brake something, and whatever 928 they had, they will not be able to beat a (new) corvette at any speed under 80mph.
I bet it was an auto no less. I should hope your 97 GTS beat it with ease! I would be disapointed otherwise.

turbofun

Brenden, thanks for posting back and clearing that up. It's nice to know that you hold some respect for the domestics, even if they don't hold their value when it comes time for resale. I know because I have a 91 5.7 Z28 camaro that runs consistant 13.7@103 at carlsbad and will pull almost a full G on the skid pad. I'm trying to sell it right now and I'm going to lose all the money it took to get it to run like that and a large part of my original investment. Thats one thing I will never complain about porsche, the resale value is fantastic. Also what color is your 928, I have seen a sweet looking one rolling around La Mesa a few times. One last thing Mirimar may not be all that bad. I had a questionable expierience there this does'nt mean somebody different will also. You just gotta watch them closely is all. They might just test you to see what they can get away with, who knows?
thanks.
Mike

BC

I always wanted one of those early Zs because of the easy engine bay clearance. I swear there is enough room in there to add a big block with two turbos.

My 928 is Black, with (usually) chrome "flats". I will usually be driving like an idiot, unless my pregnant wife is in the car, and I am trying my damndest to keep my foot out of the gas.

You might see a couple other 928s. An old fart is always on 163 south at around 5-6. Another guy that looks like wesly snipes is on 15 in the morning going south. I have a baby blue 81 that I drive sometimes (my wife's).

There is a drive comming up in San Diego on the 23rd if anybody is interested. Sure, its a Porsche thing, but I don't think this group is exclusionary. 11am at <a href="http://www.speedforceracing.com" target="_blank">www.speedforceracing.com</a>
It should be a blast.

Jeff C

Brendan,
Sorry I missed the sarcasm! The driver of the 928 really looked out of place, I thought. He seemed pretty cool and clearly loved the car. Can't remember if it had the rounded or angled rearend. The fishing license on his cap was classic!
If you are ever in the SF bay area, join up with an Autozotica cruse. Lots of cool cars and the 928S4 is one of the few Porsches that qualifies as an exotic. <a href="http://www.autozotica.com/az_main/az_qualifies.htm" target="_blank">http://www.autozotica.com/az_main/az_qualifies.htm</a>

FixedWing

To add my two cents worth, I note that No one has yet pointed to the fact that Porsche does publish 0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) times for their cars. These times are quite decent times. So how does Porsche get these decent times??

Doesn't publishing 0-60 times suggest that this is sort of operation is within the normal operating range of the car? The same would apply to the publish top speed of the car.

I would think that if Porsche says that a car would do something then the customer has a reasonable expectation that he can do it in the car.

S.