Want to upgrade to Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB)
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Does anyone know where to locate the PCCBs? Will it be a problem with PSM when the new set of brakes is in place?
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The factory PCCB's are impossible to get. There is a great shortage and Porsche owes many people these. In time it might be possible though.
No problem that I've seen with PSM, ABS, etc.
Query what you are expecting to get from PCCB's?
S.
No problem that I've seen with PSM, ABS, etc.
Query what you are expecting to get from PCCB's?
S.
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We've got 25-30 sets of the 6-piston calipers but no ceramic disks. We can upgrade you to a 6-piston 380x32mm brake up front with 350x34's in the back...all yellow of course. I'd wait until the disk price comes down...sure they're light and they wear well but all it takes is a slip when mounting a wheel to crack a $4500 rotor. SD
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Just wanted to add my two cents: there is the question of efficiency with the carbon ceramic discs-they need to be hot to really work well. I don't know any true drivers who have had to carbons recommend them to anyone if they are strictly used for street...but if their intended use is track...ah, now we're talking. So take the 6 piston Brembos, in yellow of course, and you will never complain!
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Can anyone confirm that there is no change in the reservoirs or the lines to/from the calipers if you were just to change the calipers - ie can you replace just the calipers or do you also need lines and reservoirs changed as well. TIA. T2
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FWIW, Porsche just announced the availability of PCCB on certain models starting late 2002 production. No prices have been released yet.
911 Turbo - Individual Option - October 2002
911 C4S - Individual Option - November 2002
Key Benefits:
- 50% reduction in the rotating and unsprung mass compared to grey cast-iron brake discs of the same type Faster brake response
- High fading stability thanks to consistently high friction values Long service life of brake components High corrosion resistance
- Large safety reserves, even under extreme loads
Technical Specifications:
- 6-piston aluminum monobloc fixed calipers at the front
- 4-piston aluminum monobloc fixed calipers at the rear
- Brake calipers painted yellow
- Carbon fiber-reinforced ceramic brake discs with evolute cooling ducts, perforated
- Disc diameter: 350 mm front and rear
- Disc thickness: 34 mm front; 28 mm rear
- Brake pads matched to ceramic brake discs
911 Turbo - Individual Option - October 2002
911 C4S - Individual Option - November 2002
Key Benefits:
- 50% reduction in the rotating and unsprung mass compared to grey cast-iron brake discs of the same type Faster brake response
- High fading stability thanks to consistently high friction values Long service life of brake components High corrosion resistance
- Large safety reserves, even under extreme loads
Technical Specifications:
- 6-piston aluminum monobloc fixed calipers at the front
- 4-piston aluminum monobloc fixed calipers at the rear
- Brake calipers painted yellow
- Carbon fiber-reinforced ceramic brake discs with evolute cooling ducts, perforated
- Disc diameter: 350 mm front and rear
- Disc thickness: 34 mm front; 28 mm rear
- Brake pads matched to ceramic brake discs
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I know this was a long time ago but out of curiosity what were they doing with all these people that needed the rotors while they were having a shortage? DId they just tell them sorry you can't drive your porsche for a couple of months? Give them a loaner? Give them someway to fit steel rotors in the mean time?
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Having own a 2004 GT3 with PCCB and I just traded it in for a 996 Turbo, my little time with the GT3 with the PCCB compared to running the 996 Turbo and also having 993TT brakes on two of my race cars I can say that I'm not really a fan of the PCCB. The GT3 came with Yellow "Sport" pads they only felt good when you were bring the car down from high speeds quickly any other time the brakes felt different and never the same always changing depending on the stop .. strange, some of this could be the pads, they do offer a street/comfort pads and a race pads for when you take the car to the track.
For me if I were to upgrade my Turbo brakes it would be for 6-piston 380x32mm steal rotors up front with a 4-piston 350x34's steal rotors in the back or maybe just upgrade the fronts.
For me if I were to upgrade my Turbo brakes it would be for 6-piston 380x32mm steal rotors up front with a 4-piston 350x34's steal rotors in the back or maybe just upgrade the fronts.
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Bob: Apparently Porsche is using the same yellow P90 pads (P90-2 on the rear) for both the PCCB and metal brake equipped GT3s. At least those coming to the US.
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I have a complete set of new factory PCCB rotors NIB .... these are are 350 mm ones front and back. I am told these will bolt on the 996TT, GT2 and wide body C4S cars. These dealer list for over $20K. Photos and specs available upon request. Would like $6500 for the complete set or make me an offer I can't refuse.
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Steve says ".sure they're light and they wear well but all it takes is a slip when mounting a wheel to crack a $4500 rotor." and garrickl says the 4 rotors retail for over $20k. Why, then, is the PCCB a $8k factory option on the TT?
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1. Factory option includes a credit for the unused standard system.
2. Spare parts are always a lot more expensive than when factory fitted. Most car manufacturers make more of their money on spare parts than on selling the cars.
If you doubt it, why not ask your dealer for a quote, a 1 minute phone call will give everyone a 100% accurate answer..............
I was quoted more than that in the UK.
Guy
2. Spare parts are always a lot more expensive than when factory fitted. Most car manufacturers make more of their money on spare parts than on selling the cars.
If you doubt it, why not ask your dealer for a quote, a 1 minute phone call will give everyone a 100% accurate answer..............
I was quoted more than that in the UK.
Guy