Tire pressure at the track with P-zero's
#16
I usually start in the 32-34 front and 34-36 rear range and the car is stuck when they are 40/42 hot - also Bob thanks for the pad recommendation - have you seen any rotor wear when using those pads????
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T2 - rotor failure is inevitable with PCCB. RS 19 pads prolong their life but it isn;t a cure. If you have cast iron rotors, RS 19 last longer and brake better but you will replace rotors due to excess cracks long before they wear out (too thin).
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#18
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I have a track event scheduled in early June.
I have new M pilot sports ps2's.
I read this tire pressure thread with interest, but please help me with a couple of things, as this will be my first road track couse event. I will have a professional instructor with me, but I want to think ahead and get other (secondary) opinions.
Quote: Surgeon - I find that the Cups like less pressure, 34-36 hot. On a GT3 I find them best at 32F 34R hot.
Rgds,
When you say Cups, what are Cups?
And what is PCCB?
I'm looking forward to my first track experience with my 996TT, but some clear interpretation of this acronym wordage would be very useful in preparing for the event.
I know I sound like a newbie, but help me prevent looking like one!!
Tnx, Bill
I have new M pilot sports ps2's.
I read this tire pressure thread with interest, but please help me with a couple of things, as this will be my first road track couse event. I will have a professional instructor with me, but I want to think ahead and get other (secondary) opinions.
Quote: Surgeon - I find that the Cups like less pressure, 34-36 hot. On a GT3 I find them best at 32F 34R hot.
Rgds,
When you say Cups, what are Cups?
And what is PCCB?
I'm looking forward to my first track experience with my 996TT, but some clear interpretation of this acronym wordage would be very useful in preparing for the event.
I know I sound like a newbie, but help me prevent looking like one!!
Tnx, Bill
#19
Bill the "cup" tires are R compound racing track only street legal tires, not for you at this point. You will have the MSP2's of which you will want 41 rear and 39 front hot tire pressure for track events.
The PCCB are Porsche Carbon Ceramic Brakes an upgrade on our cars for brakes, again not for you at this point.
plenty of threads on all of above as well as 1st time track guys, use the search
relax and have fun!!
The PCCB are Porsche Carbon Ceramic Brakes an upgrade on our cars for brakes, again not for you at this point.
plenty of threads on all of above as well as 1st time track guys, use the search
relax and have fun!!
#20
I did find some old data on an event at Pocono I went to about 2+ years ago - I had been running the car that day with 46/46 - now that I am much more comfortable with the car I run about 40/41 in front and no more than 42 in the rear - again with Gen 1 PCCB's (less unsprung weight) and on the stock Pirelli's (which stick really well for a street tire) - for your first event take the time for the first day learning the line (where to brake, where to apex and where to push) - doing this at less than 60% is recommended - give some time to heat the tires up for the first couple of laps and cool them down (as well as your brakes) after each event - remember not to put your E-brake on after you park the car after a heat - bring lots of H2O - also get your seat position set as early as you can - you'll be amazed at how much that helps - and when you can use the dead pedal on the left of the clutch (assuming you have a manual tranny) - you can get lots of feedback from that on how the car feels - just my 2 cents based on my experience - listen to your instructor and be safe!!!
#22
Bill,
Aside from the tire pressures, there are 3 bits of advice I'd offer.
Get a real pair of racing shoes. Feeling the pedals is important, and you need to know where the edges of your feet are.
Stay comfortable. Since you are just learning, and not trying to get fastest time, I'd keep the airconditioning on. They may want you to drop the side windows, but unless requested, I'm inclined to keep them up. That doesn't apply when there are lots of other cars around, because then I like the aural warning signals that you lose with the windows up. There may be some disagreement with this recommendation. Bob, what do you think?
Lastly, shift early. You don't need the whole rev range while you're learning. There is no point getting ragged when the car hits the rev limiter. You can probably go as fast as you want shifting at 5000 as 6400. Have fun! AS
Aside from the tire pressures, there are 3 bits of advice I'd offer.
Get a real pair of racing shoes. Feeling the pedals is important, and you need to know where the edges of your feet are.
Stay comfortable. Since you are just learning, and not trying to get fastest time, I'd keep the airconditioning on. They may want you to drop the side windows, but unless requested, I'm inclined to keep them up. That doesn't apply when there are lots of other cars around, because then I like the aural warning signals that you lose with the windows up. There may be some disagreement with this recommendation. Bob, what do you think?
Lastly, shift early. You don't need the whole rev range while you're learning. There is no point getting ragged when the car hits the rev limiter. You can probably go as fast as you want shifting at 5000 as 6400. Have fun! AS
#24
Good comments!
This is not my thread, so I will be brief. But thanks to you guys for commenting and helping a first time tracker.
I'll post a new "question" thread about my PSS9.s, stage 2, choice of wheels, ECU, air box, instructors, etc.
Tnx again, Bill
This is not my thread, so I will be brief. But thanks to you guys for commenting and helping a first time tracker.
I'll post a new "question" thread about my PSS9.s, stage 2, choice of wheels, ECU, air box, instructors, etc.
Tnx again, Bill
#25
AS, always agree with your comments, always thoughtful and insightful.......but I have never been to a DE that you were "allowed" to keep the windows down, including PCA, PBOC, Chin, or the BMW CCA. I certainly agree there are times were it would be nice (especially when raining) but the need for hand signals to pass cant be avoided and thus the reason the windows must stay down. Other wise great post as always