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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Had my car in for service on my OPC, and they called telling me there was a serious issue (like catching fire anytime) due to one of the power steering lines slightly out of position.
Basically it seems like the plastic mount has broken slightly, and one of the lines is therefore misaligned.
However the line is now leaning towards the metal frame as shown in the picture and has caused a dent in it (but no hole)

My questions are:

- Do I really need to drop the engine to change this line ?
- Would reposition the line / put some rubber between the line and metal frame do as a temporary solution ?

Any other solutions ?

I'm thinking the engine won't come out before I change the clutch (probably a few years from now as the car has only done 50k's)


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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 02:37 PM
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There concerns are valid only if the line in your second picture shows a valid "wear cut" or groove.
I'd say, that's odd, steel high pressure line vs the aluminum support bracket?? The aluminum bracket should wear FIRST...
Bent the line up and feel the wear groove. Can they show you the depth of the wear groove?
If there is a groove ask which tech had the hack saw blade in there tool box LOL
On the serious side, if you have a 1mm wear groove, you can speed up your clutch install and glue/pin your coolant fittings!
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 03:17 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply.

There is a groove yes, but didn't manage to take the picture unfortunately.
I got a very bad feeling when talking to the guy on the phone as he about the mechanic not wanting to drive the car one meter as it could catch fire anytime.
He was extremely eager to "sell" me the engine removal job to put it like that.
Also some pretty nasty stories about this shop, so I am not sure your joke is just a joke..
Do I have to drop the engine to change the line ?
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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Tell me how deep the groove is..
And yes there is a fire risk if it does sheer. For a light groove less than 0.20" or 0.5mm> you can make a repair sleeve>> cut a aluminum can and wrap around line. Then take a the smallest hose clamp >better yet a cable clamp and tighten.

You would need to drop the engine to replace this line.
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 08:17 PM
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OK - i will take a picture when i get the car back.
Just wondering why this line cannot be changed with the engine in the car ?
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You can.. You will sit there burning up a weeks worth of labor removing the intake manifold and snaking that old line out to the hydraulic slave cylinder and then installing the new one. The left intake manifold, alternator, power steering pump, side intake plenum, engine wiring harness will all need to come off. Basically,everything that you see on the left center of the engine will need to be removed. In the end to save your wallet money, the engine drop is easier and cheaper to do.
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Old Jun 8, 2018 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
You can.. You will sit there burning up a weeks worth of labor removing the intake manifold and snaking that old line out to the hydraulic slave cylinder and then installing the new one. The left intake manifold, alternator, power steering pump, side intake plenum, engine wiring harness will all need to come off. Basically,everything that you see on the left center of the engine will need to be removed. In the end to save your wallet money, the engine drop is easier and cheaper to do.
and i would add its a great time to pin or weld the coolant lines since the engine is out and theres not much additional labor
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If you follow the line down the side of the ps reservoir, how close does the line get to the side of the reservoir housing? On mine, there is only about 1/8" gap between the line and housing. How close to the ps reservoir should that line be?
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Mffarrell: I am not sure I understand your question.

Otherwise I understand it is quicker to remove the engine but it is, but changing it with the engine in is something I could do myself with some assistance (like a Small Project). Engine drop on the turbo is very expensive in my part of the world due to ridicicolus labour rates.
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Originally Posted by nichob
Mffarrell: I am not sure I understand your question.

Otherwise I understand it is quicker to remove the engine but it is, but changing it with the engine in is something I could do myself with some assistance (like a Small Project). Engine drop on the turbo is very expensive in my part of the world due to ridicicolus labour rates.
like kevin said its near impossible to do with the engine in the car. getting the intake manifold out is extremely difficult to do engine in the car. it takes about 8 hrs to drop the engine / trans combo and can be done with the car on jackstands if needed. its really not the hard to do
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Slit a piece of fuel line and wrap it around that steel line as a buffer, secure it with a couple wire ties and check it periodically.
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Originally Posted by nichob
Mffarrell: I am not sure I understand your question.

Otherwise I understand it is quicker to remove the engine but it is, but changing it with the engine in is something I could do myself with some assistance (like a Small Project). Engine drop on the turbo is very expensive in my part of the world due to ridicicolus labour rates.
if you do not feel comfortable dropping the engine yourself to do the work, I'd recommend you don't try the "small project" path.
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