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Old 12-10-2003, 12:03 AM
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http://www.premiercars.com/details.p...k_Number=P2387

Provided it checks out with the following
- full records
- no paint or damage history
- clean ppi
- one owner

What do you guys think is a great deal price on it?

Thanks

Doug

P.S. - Still deciding on GT3 or 996TT or 993TT
Old 12-10-2003, 03:32 AM
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911TurboFever - where did you find the wholesale value?
Old 12-10-2003, 05:57 AM
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schvetkaaks,
there is nothing wrong with that car, but having a seller like this no matter how good the price is i'll just stay away.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...&threadid=4320
Old 12-10-2003, 05:59 AM
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or maybe u can get it later cheaper on ebay, but u have to out bid this moron
Old 12-10-2003, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by 20C4S
schvetkaaks,
there is nothing wrong with that car, but having a seller like this no matter how good the price is i'll just stay away.

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...&threadid=4320
I'm not the one interested in the car - I just wondered where one gets wholesale pricing
Old 12-10-2003, 11:29 AM
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To get the 'wholesale' price try www.kbb.com for the "Kelley Blue Book".
In today's market for Porsches and other high-end automobiles, there are also many auto auctions you can attend [but may not be able to bid] in order to get a feel for your 'wholesale' price.
'Caveat emptor' certainly applies in purchasing a high end vehicle. You should try to establish why an 'affluent' original purchaser decided to sell the vehicle. One could certainly advise a static as well as dynamic inspection by a qualified mechanic [of the make of car] prior to purchasing.
Old 12-10-2003, 11:40 AM
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Address of Premier: http://premiercars.com/

....address of Wilhout Enterprises (high bidder on above auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=10156) - http://www.willhoitenterprises.com/contact.htm

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Gee, the seller and bidder have the exact same mailing address ;-)
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now u guys get it
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report them to Ebay for shilling
Old 12-10-2003, 01:41 PM
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I am always amazed when a buyer will quote e-bay
prices, they usually are well under true wholesale.

And if they are anywhere near retail, there is usually
some kind of funny business going on.
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Originally posted by Cupcar#12
report them to Ebay for shilling
i did, but haven't heard a word back yet!
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I don't think ebay replies back after a reported violation. They usually send an auto-email which says thanks but you won't hear from them again. With the number of items listed they probaly get a ton of unhappy bidders, sellers and casual observers.
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this is what i got 5 mins ago...

Hello,

I appreciate you notifying SafeHarbor with your concern.

Thank you for providing us with the details about this situation with
mwillhoit and premierferrari.

We are concerned about violations on the site and have thoroughly
investigated your report. Please be assured that we have taken the
appropriate action in accordance with our site policies. Our actions may
include issuing a warning, temporary or indefinite suspension, or
terminating the membership.

As you may know, we are unable to provide specific information regarding
the result of our investigation to third party members. Please
understand that this is for the protection of all eBay users.

Again, we appreciate your assistance in keeping eBay a fun and safe
place to trade.

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.

Regards,

Bruce
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I would not deal with that obviously dishonest dealer.


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