sub-zero

997gt3 price !

HDA

i think the Copley car was an outlier.

that silver one is pretty not sure about being that much overpriced

94526GT3

Or for another $15k get into a 991.1 (gasp) PDK gt3.

Rambler_13

There are a few at Udrive but their asking prices are, let’s say, interesting. But that speed yellow one, mmmm!

https://www.udriveautomobiles.co/veh...f442f8f5f5d6ac

Olemiss540

I think the $250k e30 M3 should teach us all a lesson for where the pricing model is going on limited production, extremely low mileage, generational sports cars. The next market dip, wouldn't be the worst idea to pick up a low mileage gt3 for "997gt3 price" and hold onto it for 10 years. I imagine quite a few more e30m3's were produced than 996gt3s, but I may be wrong.

911-AL

I think you are on to something. 996 GT3 total global production was just over 2k units. 958 in the US over the two year run vs. E30 M3 which they made ~5k units a year for the first three years.

I have had turbo's, a GT2, and other cars like the F430 and GT350R and they all pale in comparison to the 6GT3 that I (never should have) sold five years ago. Regardless, I recently solved that problem

hf1

There are maybe only few dozen very clean and couple hundred clean 996 GT3 left in NA. If you want one you have to convince one of those couple hundred owners -- who by now ALL know what they have, how special it is, and how hard it is to replace it with anything else -- to let it go. The math gets non-linear quickly beyond that point. The 996 GT3 almost perfectly combines the analog no-nannies rawness of the aircooled hotrod with the benefits of a modern GT engine and suspension. It could easily become the "73 RS" of the Mezger universe. Which reminds me to take a drive in mine...

Rootwitch

Wow, those are some low mileage cars!

cag4

i have no doubt. The only 911 I’ve owned that comes close to my 70RSR (a *very* accurate clone of a ‘73 RSR), in terms of performance, and more importantly, the sense of “occasion” when you fire it up. It will become the most desirable of the GT cars in time, as everything that has come since is bigger, heavier, more computerized, plusher and less engaging, demanding and rewarding.

GBX

agreed. I think the .1 GT3 is almost as raw as the 6.2 and with the more refined interior, dare I say it’s the better all around gt’er

hf1

Personally, I prefer the 6gt3 interior, smaller & narrower body, lack of sunroof, and lack of PSM -- and wouldn't trade my 6gt3 for a 7gt3 in the same condition.

Marv

The 1973 RS had a long, long time to appreciate. I am thinking the 996 GT3 does not have the same luxury.

Since 1973, 47 years have elapsed and the driving landscape has not changed that much. By 2051, 47 years after my car was built, gasoline and diesel powered cars will be the minority on the road. Cities are already creating legislation to ban internal combustion engines from their streets. That will only continue to broaden as governments use carrot and stick to push people into electric cars. That translates to higher registration costs, restricted driving, and higher fuel costs (think taxes).

At some point there will be a threshold where the number of electric cars induces a much lower demand on gasoline. The first thought is the lower demand will drop fuel prices like we saw when the pandemic first hit. However, oil companies will have no reason to refine small quantities of fuel for low resale prices, so a limited-use commodity will cost a lot more. Premium blend fuel will probably go extinct first.

Governments collect a lot of revenue from fuel sales in the form of taxes. As the amount of sales decrease that will put pressure on government to increase fuel taxes. It's a temporary relief, but it pumps up revenue and discourages the use of gasoline clunkers (remember the cash for clunkers deal) to rid the streets of internal combustion engines. Longer term taxes on everything will need to compensate for the loss of fuel taxes, but by then it will be simple to tax all vehicles by-the-mile driven thanks to more and more sophisticated black boxes. For those without the boxes a yearly state inspection of the odometer will do nicely, for a small fee.

That leaves museums as the ultimate resting place for our cars and maybe a few private collectors, but that is going to be a pretty thin market for something that sits on a pedestal. There is only a so many museums.

The automotive landscape is going to change rather radically in ways we never thought of. That's why this is my "last real" Porsche. I will continue driving the snot out of my car while I still can and manufactures still make tires to fit it.

hf1

Oil’s death has been predicted for decades now. I have a contrarian belief that the “CO2 is heating the atmosphere and will kill us all” and “renewable/green energy” scams will die before oil does. God willing, and if I’m still alive, I give it 90% odds that I will still drive a 6gt3 30 years from now.

Marv

Yes, when it was thought we were running out of oil. Now the issue is legislative and that tide hasn't turned. If anything, it has accelerated. Tesla is now the most valuable car company in the world.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53257933

Even Porsche is betting against you.

Porsche is committed to 50% of their car sales being electric in just 5 years.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markewi.../#5dd179533bb1

Welcome to the brave new world my friend.

ScottArizona

I agree! There is just something very special about a 6-3. The scale, size, feel, nimbleness, and of course rarity and reliability all combine to make it a super special package. I just purchased a high mileage 430 scuderia and it is raw and intense and fast and fun but it would go away before my Gt3 if I had to make that choice (which I hope is a long way off ‘cause I love the car....just saying to give an idea of how highly I regard the 996 Gt3 platform).