GT3 spanked by the M3 CSL
11-18-2003, 05:08 AM
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Re: Re: Competitors to the GT3
Originally posted by rockitman
If your looking for your BMW daily affirmation, I think you are posting on the wrong board mate.
The tone of this thread title and your careless response to me warranted my second response... I am sure the BMW touring coup is a nice car, but it certainly does not spank a GT3...Good Day!!!
If your looking for your BMW daily affirmation, I think you are posting on the wrong board mate.
The tone of this thread title and your careless response to me warranted my second response... I am sure the BMW touring coup is a nice car, but it certainly does not spank a GT3...Good Day!!!
I didn't name this thread, just replied to it as did you. Someone that feels the need to be condescending to others clearly shows their own vulnerability and weakness. I really have no idea why you keep bleating on about how superior the GT3 is, I have one too remember...
Clearly you're entitled to your own opinion but since it's not based on first-hand experience, it's a little bit incomplete. But hey, you go for it, if it's that important to believe then who am I to burst your 'comfort' bubble
11-18-2003, 09:27 AM
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Yeah leave the guy alone.. The October issue of EVO was actually more impressed with the Impreza Spec C than the M3 CSL. It all comes down to preference and brand loyalty I guess, but there is no denying the GT3 is much faster than the CSL. I think a test on the same day with the same tires would prove that to be true as well.
11-18-2003, 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by ADOGNY
but there is no denying the GT3 is much faster than the CSL. I think a test on the same day with the same tires would prove that to be true as well.
but there is no denying the GT3 is much faster than the CSL. I think a test on the same day with the same tires would prove that to be true as well.
11-18-2003, 05:35 PM
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No disrespect intended SteveD...Your point is well taken. I have not driven the Beemer, so as you say, my judgement is incomplete. I think the two cars need to face off with the same tires, same driver, same day, same track and the truth will come out. I would put my money on the GT3 by a comfortable margin, if I was a betting man. Take care...
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11-18-2003, 05:46 PM
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Tiff is no longer on Top Gear (BBC programme). Tiff has moved (as most others) to Fifth Gear (on Channel 5).
The Gallardo time of Top Gear was something special. A VERY wet track it was 3 seconds faster. This in a lap of 1 min 24 sec! Thats 3 seconds in a lap of less than 90!!! VEry impressive, but as the others said, so it should be for £120k. I think a GT3 with £45k of mods would probably be much quicker again!
Tiff is no longer on Top Gear (BBC programme). Tiff has moved (as most others) to Fifth Gear (on Channel 5).
The Gallardo time of Top Gear was something special. A VERY wet track it was 3 seconds faster. This in a lap of 1 min 24 sec! Thats 3 seconds in a lap of less than 90!!! VEry impressive, but as the others said, so it should be for £120k. I think a GT3 with £45k of mods would probably be much quicker again!
11-18-2003, 06:47 PM
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Johns GT3
John,
Have you managed to find a GT3CS yet?
If not I may know where there is a silver one for sale, let me know.
Are you going to the shin dig on the 24th? Hopefully I will make it along, I will make sure to come and say Hi if I make it.
Regards
P.
Have you managed to find a GT3CS yet?
If not I may know where there is a silver one for sale, let me know.
Are you going to the shin dig on the 24th? Hopefully I will make it along, I will make sure to come and say Hi if I make it.
Regards
P.
11-18-2003, 06:58 PM
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Re: GT3 spanked by the M3 CSL
Originally posted by TB993tt
Respected German mag Sport Auto just did their Supertest on the new M3 CSL and used the new GT3 for comparison.
The GT3 was faster 0-200kph, but in every other area compared it was behind, even in the braking department
The summary, by way of a points system was that the M3 CSL was the better car in this category
The standard M3 CSL fitment of Michelin Pilot Cups may count for much of the advantage - its a pity they didn't put a set on the GT3 to eliminate that variable.
Respected German mag Sport Auto just did their Supertest on the new M3 CSL and used the new GT3 for comparison.
The GT3 was faster 0-200kph, but in every other area compared it was behind, even in the braking department
The summary, by way of a points system was that the M3 CSL was the better car in this category
The standard M3 CSL fitment of Michelin Pilot Cups may count for much of the advantage - its a pity they didn't put a set on the GT3 to eliminate that variable.
11-19-2003, 12:40 AM
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Ahh..I'd forgotten that the BBC had dismissed the Top Gear class....allowing them to decamp to 5th Gear...
Which reminds me that..watching Nikki Butler-Henderson exploit any vehicle was always...how should i put this....ah yes...a treat. :-D
Which reminds me that..watching Nikki Butler-Henderson exploit any vehicle was always...how should i put this....ah yes...a treat. :-D
11-19-2003, 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by johnfm
Bill
Tiff is no longer on Top Gear (BBC programme). Tiff has moved (as most others) to Fifth Gear (on Channel 5).
The Gallardo time of Top Gear was something special. A VERY wet track it was 3 seconds faster. This in a lap of 1 min 24 sec! Thats 3 seconds in a lap of less than 90!!! VEry impressive, but as the others said, so it should be for £120k. I think a GT3 with £45k of mods would probably be much quicker again!
Bill
Tiff is no longer on Top Gear (BBC programme). Tiff has moved (as most others) to Fifth Gear (on Channel 5).
The Gallardo time of Top Gear was something special. A VERY wet track it was 3 seconds faster. This in a lap of 1 min 24 sec! Thats 3 seconds in a lap of less than 90!!! VEry impressive, but as the others said, so it should be for £120k. I think a GT3 with £45k of mods would probably be much quicker again!
As for the Gallardo beating the GT3 time round the track, well the GT3 runs on road tyres that comprimise its performance on the track. I am not sure what tyres the Gallardo had on but the wet conditions favoured its four wheel drive set up. I suspect the GT3 would be much faster in the dry, but the Gallardo not a lot faster in the dry.
11-19-2003, 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by Madcaplaughs
I suspect the GT3 would be much faster in the dry, but the Gallardo not a lot faster in the dry.
I suspect the GT3 would be much faster in the dry, but the Gallardo not a lot faster in the dry.
11-19-2003, 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by rockitman
No disrespect intended SteveD...Your point is well taken. I have not driven the Beemer, so as you say, my judgement is incomplete. I think the two cars need to face off with the same tires, same driver, same day, same track and the truth will come out. I would put my money on the GT3 by a comfortable margin, if I was a betting man. Take care...
No disrespect intended SteveD...Your point is well taken. I have not driven the Beemer, so as you say, my judgement is incomplete. I think the two cars need to face off with the same tires, same driver, same day, same track and the truth will come out. I would put my money on the GT3 by a comfortable margin, if I was a betting man. Take care...
I hope to be attending the shin dig as Mr. RS refers to it at Snetterton on the 24th, so make up your own mind those of you who will be there too.
11-19-2003, 10:44 AM
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Re: Re: GT3 spanked by the M3 CSL
Originally posted by Madcaplaughs
You are so very funny, I wet myself laughing. You had me in tears. The M3 CSL a better car than the GT3!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know anymore jokes?
You are so very funny, I wet myself laughing. You had me in tears. The M3 CSL a better car than the GT3!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you know anymore jokes?
I was merely pointing out what respected German Mag "Sport Auto" said in their "Supertest" for the benefit of those of you who may not be able to get hold of a copy.- I have not driven an M3 CSL so cannot comment
