New Project: Engine drop to do coolant fittings...
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Aaron (loworbitsi) and I also did it with no lift. Sucks but it's not the end of the world. I made the mistake of not getting the car high enough which called for some creativity later in the process. Aaron learned from my mistake and did get his car far enough in the air. Lou yours looks plenty high. You using a motorcycle jack to lower the engine?
Another thing I will look at while I'm in there, is this noise emanating from clutch area. It is a squeal that developed after shop did RMS. Been chasing it for over a year and has been reported in other posts as others have it also. Thinking something like a washer not in the right place or? TO bearing was done at the time, less than 2k ago...
So class, there will also be a transmission separation included in the syllabus
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Been there, done that with 915s... 2 of mine, Alex, Steve and Joe's... Got a few 911 engines under my belt also. See my web page in signature...
I did the LSD on the GT3 last year with Guards (GT) innards... Anyone interested in pictures? I can start another thread as it was all documented... Just day the word
I did the LSD on the GT3 last year with Guards (GT) innards... Anyone interested in pictures? I can start another thread as it was all documented... Just day the word
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Thanks for the info re the coolant evacuation tool.
Do I understand correctly? You vacuum the system through the cap on the reservoir => shut the valve => stick the hose from the apparatus into a container of coolant => open the valve => presto, the coolant is sucked into the reservoir/system?
Or do you disconnect a hose somewhere and suck the coolant in that way?
Do I understand correctly? You vacuum the system through the cap on the reservoir => shut the valve => stick the hose from the apparatus into a container of coolant => open the valve => presto, the coolant is sucked into the reservoir/system?
Or do you disconnect a hose somewhere and suck the coolant in that way?
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It cost me a lot more than $1,500 to replace all the all the hoses, water pump, welding and other misc items
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Thanks for the info re the coolant evacuation tool.
Do I understand correctly? You vacuum the system through the cap on the reservoir => shut the valve => stick the hose from the apparatus into a container of coolant => open the valve => presto, the coolant is sucked into the reservoir/system?
Or do you disconnect a hose somewhere and suck the coolant in that way?
Do I understand correctly? You vacuum the system through the cap on the reservoir => shut the valve => stick the hose from the apparatus into a container of coolant => open the valve => presto, the coolant is sucked into the reservoir/system?
Or do you disconnect a hose somewhere and suck the coolant in that way?
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Aren't kitty litter buckets the best
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Got another 1.75 hrs in tonight... Disconnected two coolant lines by trans.
Removed alternator and also loosened the PS pump and A/C compressor. Top nut for A/C under throttle body was a bear. Ended up removing TB and loosening the plenum. PS pump was OK. Removed bracket holding oil filler. On right side of eng compartment is the A/C connector. Single wire, snakes under PS pump. As Andy said, easy to miss. See pictures. Also 2 main electrical connectors...
Decided to just cut the main coolant hoses. Was going to replace them anyway, so why mess trying to remove them from fitting. Will be much easier being able to work standing in the eng compartment.
Left side... One vacuum connector, one fuel line. Push and pull to disconnect. Decided to undo fuel line from filter at the engine. Be ready for some fuel. Make sure you put gas soaked rag outside the house... A friend lost his house and Viper when redoing deck with linseed oil and storing rags in garage. Self ignited...
Lower hose in reservoir also disconnected. One more fuel line held in place by 10mm bolt. Pulls right out. I covered all open holes to keep crap out. Specially in the fuel system...
Andy, when you took a/c and PS pump, was it a compound removal? That is, lower eng some to create clearance... Seems like a tight fit... Comments welcome!
Pretty much all done on top except for a/c and PS pump. Left to be done underneath: half shafts (6 bolts x side), clutch slave, starter and its connectors, ground strap on passenger side and one hose by trans cooler. Also shifter linkage and reverse light switch in nose of trans.
I think that covers it... Pictures follow... Lou
Alternator.
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A/C connector. Black plastic holder barely visible...
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Left side fuel lines
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A/C, plenum, alternator connections and TB
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Right side: PS pump, main coolant hose
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Coolant connector by trans.
Removed alternator and also loosened the PS pump and A/C compressor. Top nut for A/C under throttle body was a bear. Ended up removing TB and loosening the plenum. PS pump was OK. Removed bracket holding oil filler. On right side of eng compartment is the A/C connector. Single wire, snakes under PS pump. As Andy said, easy to miss. See pictures. Also 2 main electrical connectors...
Decided to just cut the main coolant hoses. Was going to replace them anyway, so why mess trying to remove them from fitting. Will be much easier being able to work standing in the eng compartment.
Left side... One vacuum connector, one fuel line. Push and pull to disconnect. Decided to undo fuel line from filter at the engine. Be ready for some fuel. Make sure you put gas soaked rag outside the house... A friend lost his house and Viper when redoing deck with linseed oil and storing rags in garage. Self ignited...
Lower hose in reservoir also disconnected. One more fuel line held in place by 10mm bolt. Pulls right out. I covered all open holes to keep crap out. Specially in the fuel system...
Andy, when you took a/c and PS pump, was it a compound removal? That is, lower eng some to create clearance... Seems like a tight fit... Comments welcome!
Pretty much all done on top except for a/c and PS pump. Left to be done underneath: half shafts (6 bolts x side), clutch slave, starter and its connectors, ground strap on passenger side and one hose by trans cooler. Also shifter linkage and reverse light switch in nose of trans.
I think that covers it... Pictures follow... Lou
Alternator.
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A/C connector. Black plastic holder barely visible...
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Left side fuel lines
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A/C, plenum, alternator connections and TB
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Right side: PS pump, main coolant hose
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Coolant connector by trans.
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safety wire is a nice touch.
on the A/C and PS. Yes I basically made sure they were clear and then as the motor drops out the bottom secure them with wire / bungy cords, whatever. I wrapped mine in moving blankets to make sure they didn't swing into anything
good call on cutting the hoses. They are such a bitch to get apart.
There are vacuum connections on the back drivers side behind all the fuel mess that need to come apart when the motoro starts to come down too. Not all of them need to come apart but a couple do.
on the A/C and PS. Yes I basically made sure they were clear and then as the motor drops out the bottom secure them with wire / bungy cords, whatever. I wrapped mine in moving blankets to make sure they didn't swing into anything
good call on cutting the hoses. They are such a bitch to get apart.
There are vacuum connections on the back drivers side behind all the fuel mess that need to come apart when the motoro starts to come down too. Not all of them need to come apart but a couple do.
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Had mine done. $$ but worth it compared to a big coolant induced cra$h
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Lou- Fix those fittings even though PNA says they are of no concern. Nonsense. I've seen cars wreck on the coolant that they say "evaporates".
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...009-57948P.pdf
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...009-57948P.pdf
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Hey Guys,
I am going through this as we speak. I ended up pinning the lines since I had convinced myself that this was good enough. Actually finished the motor, the transmission is going back together soon, and the new suspension bits will be installed. Please feel free to ask any questions. Will likely write up my adventures...
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I am going through this as we speak. I ended up pinning the lines since I had convinced myself that this was good enough. Actually finished the motor, the transmission is going back together soon, and the new suspension bits will be installed. Please feel free to ask any questions. Will likely write up my adventures...
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/rbahr/image2_zpsd2f725e7.jpeg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v455/rbahr/IMG_1292_zpsc9011376.jpg)
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