GT3 Suspension questions
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GT3 Suspension questions
Hi All,
Some smart Porsche folks told me about a 6GT3RS that came with an suspension different from the standard GT3. Does anyone have any experience with this setup. Is it something to aspire to (for track usage) ?
Thanks
Ray
Some smart Porsche folks told me about a 6GT3RS that came with an suspension different from the standard GT3. Does anyone have any experience with this setup. Is it something to aspire to (for track usage) ?
Thanks
Ray
#2
not really.
Shocks were valved slightly differently, springs were slightly stiffer (Less than 100lbs front and rear). bars were the same,
The components that would be nice to have but I'm still not sure they are worth the cost is the front uprights had better geometry for cars that are lower than stock height. They kept bump steer at the front to a minimum when lowered. Calipers are rotated downward slightly too if you really want to be critical about where that un-sprung mass is hanging.
There are much better solutions for dampers and springs unless you're getting a screaming deal on the RS stuff. Do toe arms front and rear with bump adjustment and you've got the geometry handled if you lower the car.
Shocks were valved slightly differently, springs were slightly stiffer (Less than 100lbs front and rear). bars were the same,
The components that would be nice to have but I'm still not sure they are worth the cost is the front uprights had better geometry for cars that are lower than stock height. They kept bump steer at the front to a minimum when lowered. Calipers are rotated downward slightly too if you really want to be critical about where that un-sprung mass is hanging.
There are much better solutions for dampers and springs unless you're getting a screaming deal on the RS stuff. Do toe arms front and rear with bump adjustment and you've got the geometry handled if you lower the car.
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Thanks Andy,
The rear has a lot more changes than the front - the uprights are different, the rear cross member and the side cross member are all different, just wondering how that changes things...
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The rear has a lot more changes than the front - the uprights are different, the rear cross member and the side cross member are all different, just wondering how that changes things...
Thanks
Ray
#4
here you go...was looking for this earlier. This member went to lengths to do the conversion.
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...uspension.html
There's talk on Page 3 about how 997 geometry got even better than 996 RS stuff...and interesting that 996 RS components were better than 996 cup components.
What's that all really equate to???...good question. That Red car eventually went to another forum member who took off the RS shocks and springs and put Motons on the car and said it was another leap forward. Think this car now resides up in Canada
https://rennlist.com/forums/996-gt2-...uspension.html
There's talk on Page 3 about how 997 geometry got even better than 996 RS stuff...and interesting that 996 RS components were better than 996 cup components.
What's that all really equate to???...good question. That Red car eventually went to another forum member who took off the RS shocks and springs and put Motons on the car and said it was another leap forward. Think this car now resides up in Canada
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Funny you should ask:
I did the pricing exercise yesterday. Missing a few small thing and the shock/spring setup. I already have Motons son I would keep those...
As requested, here is a Quote for your Order from Jim Ellis Porsche Parts.
The items in your Order are:
Quantity Product Stock Number Price EA
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105292 $1447.28
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105192 $1447.28
1 lid . COVER. 99734166190 $58.33
1 wheel carrier 99633111290 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99633111190 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99734115893 $1466.83
1 wheel carrier 99734115793 $1466.83
* Items marked are not eligible for discounted pricing, but do contribute to reaching the discount thresholds
Your order summary:
7 products, 7 items $ 8011.89
Shipping & Handling (USA) $ 65.00
Total
$ 8076.89
Ray
I did the pricing exercise yesterday. Missing a few small thing and the shock/spring setup. I already have Motons son I would keep those...
As requested, here is a Quote for your Order from Jim Ellis Porsche Parts.
The items in your Order are:
Quantity Product Stock Number Price EA
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105292 $1447.28
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105192 $1447.28
1 lid . COVER. 99734166190 $58.33
1 wheel carrier 99633111290 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99633111190 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99734115893 $1466.83
1 wheel carrier 99734115793 $1466.83
* Items marked are not eligible for discounted pricing, but do contribute to reaching the discount thresholds
Your order summary:
7 products, 7 items $ 8011.89
Shipping & Handling (USA) $ 65.00
Total
$ 8076.89
Ray
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I am fixing/rebuilding it. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, & 5th gears were all damaged, that, a LW flywheel, and Guard LSD overhaul is my current project, but I am itching to do some suspension stuff as well, and 6/7GT3RS bits sounds sooooo nice...
Ray
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#12
In the mean time $8k buys a lot of seat time, brakes and tires and since I've still got driver mod to work on.
#13
Lots of guys have replaced many of the suspension components to the RSS stuff and said it is a VERY noticeable difference. We just did that to a customers 04 GT3 last week and were surprised at how many bushings were worn out on the stock stuff. The RSS components also give you so much more adjustability than stock that you can get a much better set up.
Even Leh Keen changed out everything on his 997.1 GT3RS to the RSS parts and said the difference was amazing.
Even Leh Keen changed out everything on his 997.1 GT3RS to the RSS parts and said the difference was amazing.
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Funny you should ask:
I did the pricing exercise yesterday. Missing a few small thing and the shock/spring setup. I already have Motons son I would keep those...
As requested, here is a Quote for your Order from Jim Ellis Porsche Parts.
The items in your Order are:
Quantity Product Stock Number Price EA
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105292 $1447.28
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105192 $1447.28
1 lid . COVER. 99734166190 $58.33
1 wheel carrier 99633111290 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99633111190 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99734115893 $1466.83
1 wheel carrier 99734115793 $1466.83
* Items marked are not eligible for discounted pricing, but do contribute to reaching the discount thresholds
Your order summary:
7 products, 7 items $ 8011.89
Shipping & Handling (USA) $ 65.00
Total
$ 8076.89
Ray
I did the pricing exercise yesterday. Missing a few small thing and the shock/spring setup. I already have Motons son I would keep those...
As requested, here is a Quote for your Order from Jim Ellis Porsche Parts.
The items in your Order are:
Quantity Product Stock Number Price EA
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105292 $1447.28
1 side section . SIDE PANEL. 99633105192 $1447.28
1 lid . COVER. 99734166190 $58.33
1 wheel carrier 99633111290 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99633111190 $1062.67
1 wheel carrier 99734115893 $1466.83
1 wheel carrier 99734115793 $1466.83
* Items marked are not eligible for discounted pricing, but do contribute to reaching the discount thresholds
Your order summary:
7 products, 7 items $ 8011.89
Shipping & Handling (USA) $ 65.00
Total
$ 8076.89
Ray
AFAIK your "standard" GT3 front Motons won't fit the RS uprights.
Furthermore KW list two different part numbers for their GT3 and the GT3RS kits.