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Tranny is out for LSD and 1st gear syncro rebuild. G Box says needs $10K of stuff

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Old 10-23-2011, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
What internals for the LSD they plan to do? U should steer away from stock internals. Mike
yes, I'm pretty sure Stan is planing factory new parts except slightly uprated load springs....
what do you recommend? At this point, I'm at the end of the budget. Is there an upgrade that doesn't cost more than factory parts? Thx
Old 10-23-2011, 06:31 PM
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If money is an issue I go with cup plates- same locking ratio 40/60 as stock but will last way alot longer at minimal costs. I remember it ran $700. Stock is brass and cup are steel just FYI. Having higher preload springs then stock I would think the stock brass units won't last at all. Mike
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
If money is an issue I go with cup plates- same locking ratio 40/60 as stock but will last way alot longer at minimal costs. I remember it ran $700. Stock is brass and cup are steel just FYI. Having higher preload springs then stock I would think the stock brass units won't last at all. Mike
he's right...
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
If money is an issue I go with cup plates- same locking ratio 40/60 as stock but will last way alot longer at minimal costs. I remember it ran $700. Stock is brass and cup are steel just FYI. Having higher preload springs then stock I would think the stock brass units won't last at all. Mike
OK, I'll chat with Stan.
My goal here is to not have to open the tranny again for as looooong as possible (durability), not maximum performance. What would you recommend?

Thanks
Old 10-24-2011, 11:46 AM
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If you want the perfect balance of price, performance, and longevity you cannot go wrong with the cup gears, cup clutch packs for the LSD. I did that in mine and it was heaven.

While you are in there, you need to shorten up the gears. The current structure is one that will never be exploited. Bring the top end down in the 170's and shorten gears 3-6. Depending on what track(s) you predominately run, talk to the shop building the box and tell them what stock gear ratios are like on track. The options are virtually endless to get that "perfect" gear set.
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Originally Posted by CanyonBlaster
OK, I'll chat with Stan.
My goal here is to not have to open the tranny again for as looooong as possible (durability), not maximum performance. What would you recommend?

Thanks
Stock durability- terrible(brass units will just wear faster- why they put that junk in I don't know why). Cup durability-U get in spades : ). Mike ps- like Dell mentioned I woulda done the whole tamale except add a shorter r/p and gearsets he mentioned because I'm a track junkie : ). Mike
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As per Matt's previous post elsewhere on this site, don't go too short on 3rd if durability is important. Keep 3rd gear in the 1.600:1 to 1.650:1 range. Avoid 1.684:1 to 1.789:1 area because they have a shorter lifespan that you may not want due to their physical size.

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Ring and pinion and a mainshaft? Yeah, it's feasible to hit $10K with that kind of damage. It's not that common but some of those pinion bearings have been known to fail prematurely on these boxes.

Stan is no idiot. He won't stack your LSD too tight. If he gets you the Cup Car vane kit, he can adjust things appropriately to give you a good street/DE diff and not build you something that's race spec on your driver...
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Maybe this helps
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...20AND%20PINION

That is retail
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The 7.2RS ring 'n pinion set might be a good choice for someone who does not want to go as aggressive as the Cup or the Guard setup.. (and still offer some reduction in ratio)
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Originally Posted by CanyonBlaster
OK, I'll chat with Stan.
My goal here is to not have to open the tranny again for as looooong as possible (durability), not maximum performance. What would you recommend?

Thanks
And that's why you need to do it right the first time...

Originally Posted by GTgears
Stan is no idiot. He won't stack your LSD too tight. If he gets you the Cup Car vane kit, he can adjust things appropriately to give you a good street/DE diff and not build you something that's race spec on your driver...
... but it seems as though you are in good hands
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Gbox may not be an authorized Guard Transmission installer, but Stan is a more than competent mechanic with several decades of gearbox expertise.
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Originally Posted by GTgears
Gbox may not be an authorized Guard Transmission installer, but Stan is a more than competent mechanic with several decades of gearbox expertise.
Damn big of you Matt.....
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Nice avatar Matt, cars looked good on the weekend and will look good at Daytona!!
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Damn big of you Matt.....
"......"? Mike


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