? today's market on 996 GT3 ?
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#17
1) 60-ish
2) Mid 50's
3) high 50's
4) same as 1
Lots of outlandish asking prices these days, sellers seem to be pretty content with letting them sit there unless they get top dollar. Deals are out there every now and then.
Market bottomed winter of '09-10 Sharp increase spring of 10, another small increase sping 11. Hasn't really gone anywhere since about April this year.
2) Mid 50's
3) high 50's
4) same as 1
Lots of outlandish asking prices these days, sellers seem to be pretty content with letting them sit there unless they get top dollar. Deals are out there every now and then.
Market bottomed winter of '09-10 Sharp increase spring of 10, another small increase sping 11. Hasn't really gone anywhere since about April this year.
#18
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Thank you guys! I am having fun learning to drive it at the track (getting good coaching from Joe Rothman). Already learned alot and doing much faster laps than in my 986-S. Already dropped from 2:14-15's to 2:10's on our local track, HPR. 2:05's should be in reach soon as I get comfortable with the higher capabilities & limits of the car. Fast local guys are doing 2:00 flat in similar car...
#19
That car was tempting. I ended up going in the opposite direction and bought a 2005 CPO with 4800 miles. 60'sK. The car is perfect inside and out. It's basically a new car that is 6 yrs old! Have tracked it only once so far but the season is just starting. I've put in a Motorsport half cage, rss susp components, rear cup cooling ducts (ceramics), seats, harnesses. RaceKeeper and track wheels will finish it off. Fortunately, most of the susp., the seats and harnesses were moved from my Cayman.
Now I have to learn how to drive a rear engine car! I spun already going through a corner slower than I did in my cayman, but that's why I bought the car.
Now I have to learn how to drive a rear engine car! I spun already going through a corner slower than I did in my cayman, but that's why I bought the car.
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#20
Nordschleife Master
We might be at a crossroad; the 996 really is unique and should maintain or climb, whereas the 997.1 could continue to decrease as the more-desirable 997.2 depreciates and becomes more "affordable".
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Thank you guys! I am having fun learning to drive it at the track (getting good coaching from Joe Rothman). Already learned alot and doing much faster laps than in my 986-S. Already dropped from 2:14-15's to 2:10's on our local track, HPR. 2:05's should be in reach soon as I get comfortable with the higher capabilities & limits of the car. Fast local guys are doing 2:00 flat in similar car...
Peter
#22
That car was tempting. I ended up going in the opposite direction and bought a 2005 CPO with 4800 miles. 60'sK. The car is perfect inside and out. It's basically a new car that is 6 yrs old! Have tracked it only once so far but the season is just starting. I've put in a Motorsport half cage, rss susp components, rear cup cooling ducts (ceramics), seats, harnesses. RaceKeeper and track wheels will finish it off. Fortunately, most of the susp., the seats and harnesses were moved from my Cayman.
Now I have to learn how to drive a rear engine car! I spun already going through a corner slower than I did in my cayman, but that's why I bought the car.
Now I have to learn how to drive a rear engine car! I spun already going through a corner slower than I did in my cayman, but that's why I bought the car.
Unfortunate thing is mods for these cars are pretty outrageously expensive so some mods are definitely appealing.
Anyways, they are awesome and it doesn't matter which one you get - you ended up enjoying every minute.
#23
Burning Brakes
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Does anybody know the car linked below? Opinon on pricing?
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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[QUOTE=fbirch;8859027]Does anybody know the car linked below? Opinon on pricing?
I do, somewhat.....
When I was looking mid-summer this car was still in the hands of the original owner, and AZ is close to CO...). I spoke with him, nice guy. I recall he wanted more like $62K or so. I loved the color, but wanted a car more track prepped and was looking for a better value. When Daniel's car dropped to $50K, I jumped on it. I think it would have been reallly easy to fly past $15K in costs just to get a standard US GT3 to reallly track prepped status (half cage/oem race seats/harnesses/wheels tires).
I mod all my cars, even when new (incl Audi's , Beemers, etc.), so I moved past the whole "worry about mods" issue years ago. IMHO, as long as the mods are similar to what you would do or want anyway, and are installed right, it is great way to save $$. Most agree its much cheaper to buy a track car then to build one. I have learned this the hard way.... .
I do love that cobalt blue color though!
I do, somewhat.....
When I was looking mid-summer this car was still in the hands of the original owner, and AZ is close to CO...). I spoke with him, nice guy. I recall he wanted more like $62K or so. I loved the color, but wanted a car more track prepped and was looking for a better value. When Daniel's car dropped to $50K, I jumped on it. I think it would have been reallly easy to fly past $15K in costs just to get a standard US GT3 to reallly track prepped status (half cage/oem race seats/harnesses/wheels tires).
I mod all my cars, even when new (incl Audi's , Beemers, etc.), so I moved past the whole "worry about mods" issue years ago. IMHO, as long as the mods are similar to what you would do or want anyway, and are installed right, it is great way to save $$. Most agree its much cheaper to buy a track car then to build one. I have learned this the hard way.... .
I do love that cobalt blue color though!
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They are timing on Sun last session though so looking forward to that.
Sorry to miss you.
#26
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1) 60-ish
2) Mid 50's
3) high 50's
4) same as 1
Lots of outlandish asking prices these days, sellers seem to be pretty content with letting them sit there unless they get top dollar. Deals are out there every now and then.
Market bottomed winter of '09-10 Sharp increase spring of 10, another small increase sping 11. Hasn't really gone anywhere since about April this year.
2) Mid 50's
3) high 50's
4) same as 1
Lots of outlandish asking prices these days, sellers seem to be pretty content with letting them sit there unless they get top dollar. Deals are out there every now and then.
Market bottomed winter of '09-10 Sharp increase spring of 10, another small increase sping 11. Hasn't really gone anywhere since about April this year.
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#27
Burning Brakes
Thanks
[quote=CanyonBlaster;8860155]
Thanks for the reply. I know exactly what you mean about buying a car that already has the mods you’d want to install yourself. I did that with one previous 911 I owned and it worked out great. No fussing with parts suppliers and long phone calls with mechanics; just get in and drive!
I had just started to get serious about buying a 6GT3 when Daniel’s car sold. To be honest, I’ve never driven a GT3, so I wasn’t sure if the track-focused mods on his car would have made it too hardcore for the kind of spirited back road driving that’ll comprise 85% of my planned usage (the other 15% = 6-7 DE’s per year). Given that you actually bought the car, I’d certainly appreciate your feedback on this point.
I’m still a bit undecided whether to go for a pure stock car and just use it as-is, or whether to opt for a mod’ed car. There aren’t any of these cars around my area (Louisiana) to go for a test drive and judge by direct comparison. My old mod’ed 911 was pretty raw in every respect, and that’s what I loved about it, even when using it off the track. I just don’t know how much more raw a 6GT3 would be.
BTW, you got one heck of a deal on your car. Well bought.
Does anybody know the car linked below? Opinon on pricing?
I do, somewhat.....
When I was looking mid-summer this car was still in the hands of the original owner, and AZ is close to CO...). I spoke with him, nice guy. I recall he wanted more like $62K or so. I loved the color, but wanted a car more track prepped and was looking for a better value. When Daniel's car dropped to $50K, I jumped on it. I think it would have been reallly easy to fly past $15K in costs just to get a standard US GT3 to reallly track prepped status (half cage/oem race seats/harnesses/wheels tires).
I mod all my cars, even when new (incl Audi's , Beemers, etc.), so I moved past the whole "worry about mods" issue years ago. IMHO, as long as the mods are similar to what you would do or want anyway, and are installed right, it is great way to save $$. Most agree its much cheaper to buy a track car then to build one. I have learned this the hard way.... .
I do love that cobalt blue color though!
I do, somewhat.....
When I was looking mid-summer this car was still in the hands of the original owner, and AZ is close to CO...). I spoke with him, nice guy. I recall he wanted more like $62K or so. I loved the color, but wanted a car more track prepped and was looking for a better value. When Daniel's car dropped to $50K, I jumped on it. I think it would have been reallly easy to fly past $15K in costs just to get a standard US GT3 to reallly track prepped status (half cage/oem race seats/harnesses/wheels tires).
I mod all my cars, even when new (incl Audi's , Beemers, etc.), so I moved past the whole "worry about mods" issue years ago. IMHO, as long as the mods are similar to what you would do or want anyway, and are installed right, it is great way to save $$. Most agree its much cheaper to buy a track car then to build one. I have learned this the hard way.... .
I do love that cobalt blue color though!
I had just started to get serious about buying a 6GT3 when Daniel’s car sold. To be honest, I’ve never driven a GT3, so I wasn’t sure if the track-focused mods on his car would have made it too hardcore for the kind of spirited back road driving that’ll comprise 85% of my planned usage (the other 15% = 6-7 DE’s per year). Given that you actually bought the car, I’d certainly appreciate your feedback on this point.
I’m still a bit undecided whether to go for a pure stock car and just use it as-is, or whether to opt for a mod’ed car. There aren’t any of these cars around my area (Louisiana) to go for a test drive and judge by direct comparison. My old mod’ed 911 was pretty raw in every respect, and that’s what I loved about it, even when using it off the track. I just don’t know how much more raw a 6GT3 would be.
BTW, you got one heck of a deal on your car. Well bought.
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If you plan on buying a bone stock 996 GT3, and add track preparation, budget for another $15k.
- Rollbar + installation
- A pair of race seats, the stock seats won't pass tech with 5-point harnesses
- Harnesses
- Fire extinguisher and mount
- Alignment and corner balance
- Track brake pads
- rear RSR style toe links (a must on 996 GT3)
- Wheels and Track tires.
All these modifications will not change how the car feels on the streets, except the toe-links that actually make it drive better, and the alignment that will improve track performance, and reduce standard U.S. street driving performance.
So, a $60k 996 GT3 becomes a $75k car.
- Rollbar + installation
- A pair of race seats, the stock seats won't pass tech with 5-point harnesses
- Harnesses
- Fire extinguisher and mount
- Alignment and corner balance
- Track brake pads
- rear RSR style toe links (a must on 996 GT3)
- Wheels and Track tires.
All these modifications will not change how the car feels on the streets, except the toe-links that actually make it drive better, and the alignment that will improve track performance, and reduce standard U.S. street driving performance.
So, a $60k 996 GT3 becomes a $75k car.
#30
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I bought a 6GT3 recently for low 60's with probably $25k+ in track mods, adding many more $$$'s to change gear ratios, LSD, more wheels (ex-Mooty), exhaust, and some engine work. Great platform to deal with...