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Old 10-07-2010 | 04:16 AM
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Adjustible rear link kit? aka upper control arms, aka dog bones. imho, not need for street car. if you track it 75% or more then perhaps.


Adjustible rear toe kit? get them, and also get locking plate kit. so you lock up the eccentric and adj length of toe link to control toe angle. you dont really need bump adj unless you lower the car a lot, like cup car or even lower. very little bump str in 996.


Two piece control arm with thrust arm bushings and monoball ends?
===> the front control arm is already two piece. rear is one piece.
again if you track 75% you need them if not, then.... it's your money.



Which tires & sizes?
===>nitto nt01, RA1, r888, mpsc, r6: 245, 255, 305, 315. your question is too broad.


Shop choice?
===> any shop you mentioned above are stellar.

Other suggestions?????
===> dont bother with mods, just track the bitch.
Old 10-07-2010 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fooshe
Street 40%
Autox 5%
Track 60%

Yes, I know that's 105%......but that's how I roll!!
(Autox is a maybe)
in that case, buy everything you mentioned.
Old 10-07-2010 | 10:17 AM
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John, He's not changing the shocks. He doesn't need the monoballs yet. He should spend the 5k on track time or LSD and stuff.
Old 10-07-2010 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mooty
Which tires & sizes?
===>nitto nt01, RA1, r888, mpsc, r6: 245, 255, 305, 315. your question is too broad.
My question was more of what tire make and model do you find works best with this car and what size combination.

I have heard the RA1 245/40/18 with 305/35/18 is good, but the tires need to be shaved to work. Joe likes the NT01 with the 245/40/18 front and 315/30/18 rear. Earlier, the Yoko A08 was mentioned.

Just trying to get a feel for what the experience has been.
Old 10-07-2010 | 11:22 AM
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^like u mentioned "it's a different beast"- stay with street tires. It'll bite u. My 1st weekend at the track I spun 6 times. Know it's handling prowess and with street tires u get audio feedback when tires reach limit. Mike
Old 10-07-2010 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fooshe
My question was more of what tire make and model do you find works best with this car and what size combination.

I have heard the RA1 245/40/18 with 305/35/18 is good, but the tires need to be shaved to work. Joe likes the NT01 with the 245/40/18 front and 315/30/18 rear. Earlier, the Yoko A08 was mentioned.

Just trying to get a feel for what the experience has been.
The RA-1s are great for a beginner (after you graduate from street tires) Shaving dies make them faster and eliminates block squirm and mold release, but you don't need it as a beginner. Plus they last longer unshaved. And yes 245/305

The nittos are basically the same tire. The compound is the same but the construction is different. One, it's got a stiffer sidewall and 2 it's molded to 4/32 so you don't NEED shaving. I shave mine and I find they're faster.

the Yoko A08 is a great street tire and not that far off of a R-comp really. Grass roots magazine found that they're about a half sec (i think in an autoX) faster. The street tire technology has improved over years past.

PS2's a lot of people recommend as a street /track tire but I find they chunk and fall apart on the track, but that's me. I'll overwhelm a street tire on my warm up lap!. Great street tire tho but the Yoko's are better IMHO
Old 10-07-2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 996FLT6
^like u mentioned "it's a different beast"- stay with street tires. It'll bite u. My 1st weekend at the track I spun 6 times. Know it's handling prowess and with street tires u get audio feedback when tires reach limit. Mike
Listen to Mike.

Stick with Yoko AD08 for now. Ignore everything you read about R-comps until you have at least a season of track days under your belt, maybe more. Your instructors will give you guidance as to when they think you're ready for R-comps.

Enjoy the slippery slope! You're in for a great ride.
Old 10-07-2010 | 01:30 PM
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Agreed, I did a couple years on street tires!
Old 10-07-2010 | 01:37 PM
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dont forgot to put the cup front brake ducts on, as well as a cup front splitter which is cheaper than the stock/street one ... your front rotors will thank you!

I like the pilots as a street/track compromise
Old 10-07-2010 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AllanJ
Listen to Mike.

Stick with Yoko AD08 for now. Ignore everything you read about R-comps until you have at least a season of track days under your belt, maybe more. Your instructors will give you guidance as to when they think you're ready for R-comps.

Enjoy the slippery slope! You're in for a great ride.

I forgot to mention that this is not my first rodeo at the track. I have been an instructor with a private company for a while, as well as the BMW CCA. I was driving a pretty stout 350Z that ran down a few cars that a few people were stumpted by and an E46 M3 with minor mods.

Now I am not dumb enough to think I know everything or that I am the one undiscovered talent that F1 somehow missed, but I think I can drive fairly well and hold my own on most days. However, going fast in these cars is not all that easy. I have driven them before, but they were students cars and were driven with restraint. Now it's hammer down time and I know the learning curve is steep.

As for the tires, I have no time with any specific one on this car, so the input is very helpful. It sounds like even though I probably could handle the R compounds, perhaps learning in this car is best done on a very aggresive street tire....would you guys agree with that statement?

I like the cup front brake ducts idea Larry...I will go with the cup front spoiler and brake ducts.

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Old 10-07-2010 | 03:47 PM
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^Yes : ). Mike
Old 10-07-2010 | 04:45 PM
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Drive with street tires for awhile to get a feel for the car after a good alignment. Even though I had experience in a 911 I took it slow with the GT3 because it was more "lively". Now I can understand what the car is telling me.

There is no substitute for seat time.

Toe links are a good idea.

I've driven on Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, Nitto NT-01s, Pirelli Corsas etc. and I always go back to Cups. They offer more grip and are very predictable right off the bat. Nittos last and last but the car will outperform the tires once you get going at a good clip. I've had a few pucker moments with the Nittos I didn't really enjoy like high speed over-rotation (that I corrected) and trying to get the car slowed when it didn't really want to.
Old 10-07-2010 | 06:07 PM
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Found the MPS cup's and the Yoko AD08's are about that same price. Tough call.....
Old 10-07-2010 | 06:20 PM
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Have no clue how long yoko's last but should be
longer than mpsc's. I get a good 6 trackdays out of mpsc's before they cord. Mike
Old 10-07-2010 | 06:49 PM
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Holy Shnikes!!! Thanks gonna suck!!


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