Notices
996 GT2/GT3 Forum 1999-2005
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

PFC users. Tried any different F to R PFC pad combos?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-23-2010, 11:46 AM
  #1  
LVDell
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
LVDell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tobacco Road, NC
Posts: 5,225
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default PFC users. Tried any different F to R PFC pad combos?

Anybody use the 06 in front and 01 in rear? With the slightly higher bite than the 06, running the 01 in rear would give a bit more rear bias. Having never run that combo (ran 06 F&R in the GT3) would be interested to hear if anybody has done that and what their thoughts were.


This would be similar to the RS19/29 in front and RS14 in back that Pagid users run except the difference would be smaller since the 19/29 is more like the PFC97 pad.

Last edited by LVDell; 07-23-2010 at 12:46 PM.
Old 07-23-2010, 12:43 PM
  #2  
007DT
Drifting
 
007DT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 3,007
Received 48 Likes on 26 Posts
Default

I run Pagid 29s in the Rear Hawk DTC 70's in the Front. Only reason really is because I've always like DTC's since they came out and I already had Pagids on the rear with plenty of life.. I went with the 70's for the front as I thought that would be a better combo than the 60's.

Seemed fine at Mid-OH.. Although there isn't any real hard braking areas like I'll be able to test tomorrow at Road Atlanta.
Old 07-23-2010, 12:47 PM
  #3  
LVDell
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
LVDell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tobacco Road, NC
Posts: 5,225
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Sorry Dave, I was looking for PFC combos and I just realized my thread title didn't say PFC combo. I fixed it.

Really looking to see if anybody has done the 06F 01R setup.
Old 07-23-2010, 12:49 PM
  #4  
Bill911
Rennlist Member
 
Bill911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have currently 97 front and 06 Rear on the GT3. I have run 06 Front and Rear with the GT3. I like the 97/06 combo better on the GT3. On my Cup Car I run 06/06 and the braking is amazing in that thing. I haven't tried the 01 pad yet so I can't comment.
Old 07-23-2010, 12:53 PM
  #5  
LVDell
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
LVDell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tobacco Road, NC
Posts: 5,225
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

You NEED to try the 01 pad. AMAZING stopping power.

I wonder if the reduced weight and better weight balance of the cup makes it easier to run the same F&R combo.
Old 07-26-2010, 04:34 AM
  #6  
TripleM
Racer
 
TripleM's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Singapore
Posts: 383
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I m using PFC01 for the front and 97 for the rear.
Braking feel on hard driving is pretty good, kinda balance as in one doesnt seem to be overpowering the other. I actually like the combo and will stick to that.
Old 07-26-2010, 07:41 AM
  #7  
ninerguru
Racer
 
ninerguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Bill, a couple of questions. Did the GT3 have iron rotors from the factory? What are the rotor size in the cup car? I'm wondering if the size of the rear rotor contributes to additional rear bias on cars with the larger 350mm rear rotors. When you think about it, with all things being the same, positioning the pads/rotor farther from the center of the wheel will produce higher torque and more braking force. Good document here http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/Th...%20Systems.pdf Check the Rotor heading... Lou
Old 07-26-2010, 07:58 AM
  #8  
LVDell
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
LVDell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tobacco Road, NC
Posts: 5,225
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TripleM
I m using PFC01 for the front and 97 for the rear.
Braking feel on hard driving is pretty good, kinda balance as in one doesnt seem to be overpowering the other. I actually like the combo and will stick to that.
WTF??? You dialed in MORE front brake??? You're moving the opposite direction.
Old 07-26-2010, 04:29 PM
  #9  
bgiere
Rennlist Member
 
bgiere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: in a racecar somewhere...
Posts: 3,374
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

01 front 97 rear on the 964 cup
Old 07-26-2010, 04:34 PM
  #10  
LVDell
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
LVDell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tobacco Road, NC
Posts: 5,225
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Brant, have you run 01 or 97 both F&R for a comparison point? If not, how did you choose 01F 97R? Seems to be backward thinking in moving more bias to the front.
Old 07-26-2010, 05:54 PM
  #11  
Bill911
Rennlist Member
 
Bill911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 204
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Lou, I had ceramic rotors in the GT3 which I took off. Used Perfromance Friction rotors in the front and 997 Cup Car rotors in the rear. I currently have a set of Cayenne rotors in the front which seem to be working fine after they got bedded in. In my Cup Car the size of the rotors are 350 mm front and 330mm in the rear.
Old 07-26-2010, 06:57 PM
  #12  
ninerguru
Racer
 
ninerguru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Central NJ
Posts: 328
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Bill, thanks for your reply. I'm also running the Cayenne rotors in the front. One track event and they seem fine. Got them for $76 from Rockauto. They did not have the cryo-treated with slots. Next time. I'm also running 997 cups in rear. I was at dealer last month and noticed that Panamera Turbo also uses 350mm rears. I bet it will be a bolt on... I will try once rear cups are done. Lou
Old 07-26-2010, 11:10 PM
  #13  
bgiere
Rennlist Member
 
bgiere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: in a racecar somewhere...
Posts: 3,374
Received 51 Likes on 42 Posts
Default

Dell, I experimented with both...It brakes best with the 01/97 combo IMHO.
Old 07-27-2010, 02:49 AM
  #14  
iLLM3
Drifting
 
iLLM3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NY, LI
Posts: 2,284
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Dell haven't tried it yet, but will be soon.. Must say, I like the PFC's MUCH BETTER than the Pagid's, use to run RS19's/RS29's and then just switched to the PFC 06's since I burnt out a set at the track and a guy had the PFC's for me to swap in.. Have loved them since
Old 07-27-2010, 07:40 AM
  #15  
LVDell
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
 
LVDell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Tobacco Road, NC
Posts: 5,225
Likes: 0
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bgiere
Dell, I experimented with both...It brakes best with the 01/97 combo IMHO.
That is so interesting that the highest bite pad in front and lowest bite endurance pad would be best on any rear engine platform. I'm stumped on that one


Originally Posted by iLLM3
Dell haven't tried it yet, but will be soon.. Must say, I like the PFC's MUCH BETTER than the Pagid's, use to run RS19's/RS29's and then just switched to the PFC 06's since I burnt out a set at the track and a guy had the PFC's for me to swap in.. Have loved them since
I drank the pagid juice until my race shop convinced me to switch to pfc. Now, I know what all the fuss over pfc is about


Quick Reply: PFC users. Tried any different F to R PFC pad combos?



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:07 PM.