Improve Balky 2-3 Shift in High G Corners?
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Any ideas how to improve the 'balky' 2-3 shift in high G corners?
I have 997 shifter and Cup cables, which feel nice and 'gunbolty' travelling in a straight line, but in a fast turn it is very difficult to cleanly engage 3rd gear.
Is the engine/tranny moving slightly under cornering forces? Are more solid mounts advisable for a car that sees some street use?
Thanks for any advice,
Mark
I have 997 shifter and Cup cables, which feel nice and 'gunbolty' travelling in a straight line, but in a fast turn it is very difficult to cleanly engage 3rd gear.
Is the engine/tranny moving slightly under cornering forces? Are more solid mounts advisable for a car that sees some street use?
Thanks for any advice,
Mark
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These cars have plenty of torque to carry through a corner.
Shifting is only going to upset the ballance. If putting the the clutch in (while shifting) does not throw the car, you're not going fast enough.
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Mounts aren't going to help. As you know, my car was setup as bought as perfect as it could be and the ONLY thing we never did to the car was mounts. Doesn't need them. Trust me on this. I have a very experienced engineer working on my car and has plenty of data to support that conclusion. The deflection from the mounts is miniscule compared to all the other suspension bits on the car.
As far as the long duration corner I'm not sure I agree. I'd need more info. But unless it's the T8 complex at the Turkey F1 track, then I can't imagine what you would be referring to.
As far as the long duration corner I'm not sure I agree. I'd need more info. But unless it's the T8 complex at the Turkey F1 track, then I can't imagine what you would be referring to.
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i am with dell.
the mount will make car feel different, it may have a more direct feel. but it wont help shifting.
i used to have problem with 2-3 shift. then two GT3 drivers, both 3 seconds faster than me with eyes blind folded showed me how they are faster than me every corner without prob shifting.
the faster of those two told me this "the faster you shift, the slower your lap time will be. slow down the shift, you will drop a seconds off your lap time." now he's only 2 seconds faster than me ;-)
the mount will make car feel different, it may have a more direct feel. but it wont help shifting.
i used to have problem with 2-3 shift. then two GT3 drivers, both 3 seconds faster than me with eyes blind folded showed me how they are faster than me every corner without prob shifting.
the faster of those two told me this "the faster you shift, the slower your lap time will be. slow down the shift, you will drop a seconds off your lap time." now he's only 2 seconds faster than me ;-)
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I must be doing something wrong. I have always been instructed to not do shifting in corners for two reasons: 1: to keep the car balanced 2: faster keeping the car in the higher RPM range to track out.
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^ slow the shifts.
pull from 2nd to neutral, turn the radio on, find your fav station, turn it off, turn the AC on, adjust air volume, turn it off. than you are ready to hit 3rd.
pull from 2nd to neutral, turn the radio on, find your fav station, turn it off, turn the AC on, adjust air volume, turn it off. than you are ready to hit 3rd.
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i shift before entering the turns.
when i am bored and wanting to scare myself a bit, i would do a mid turn shift.
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