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Old 10-31-2006, 06:05 PM
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Is there any advantages or disadvantages when shifting gears from 1-3-5 rather than sequential 123456? Does this hur the car in any way?
Old 10-31-2006, 08:29 PM
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As long as you are not lugging the engine (if the car will not increase speed when more throttle is applied and the engine RPM's are below peak torque which is about 5,000 rpm) you should be ok.
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Originally Posted by gt3_002
Is there any advantages or disadvantages when shifting gears from 1-3-5 rather than sequential 123456? Does this hur the car in any way?
Yes, it hurts the car's feelings. Nothing is more satisfying for the car than to be run up through the gears. I'll bet you don't like to cuddle either.
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Originally Posted by gt3_002
Is there any advantages or disadvantages when shifting gears from 1-3-5 rather than sequential 123456? Does this hur the car in any way?
disadvantage? you missed all the fun of pegging the redline in each gear.
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Originally Posted by gt3_002
Is there any advantages or disadvantages when shifting gears from 1-3-5 rather than sequential 123456? Does this hur the car in any way?
please explain why you have a GT3.......inquiring minds need to know???
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Originally Posted by gt3_002
Is there any advantages or disadvantages when shifting gears from 1-3-5 rather than sequential 123456? Does this hur the car in any way?

I think this is brilliant - on odd days of the month just use 1-3-5 and on the even days 2-4-6.

Just to be on the safe side, try to use reverse on odd days one month and even days the next.

If you leave the car parked in gear, you can economise on hand brake usage as well.

Gee, when you sell the car it will look and feel like its done half the milage it really has - why didn't I think of that?

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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
I think this is brilliant - on odd days of the month just use 1-3-5 and on the even days 2-4-6.

Just to be on the safe side, try to use reverse on odd days one month and even days the next.

If you leave the car parked in gear, you can economise on hand brake usage as well.

Gee, when you sell the car it will look and feel like its done half the milage it really has - why didn't I think of that?

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Ditto!
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Poor old GT3-002! FWIW, if it makes you feel better, I generally drive my daily driver (Lupo GTi) 1-2-6.

After second, I'm already beyond the legal limit for most day-to-day driving.
Old 11-01-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gt3_002
Is there any advantages or disadvantages when shifting gears from 1-3-5 rather than sequential 123456? Does this hur the car in any way?
Not intending to damp other's morning cuckle but I can think of one disadvantage. The gear spacing is larger so you need to wait a little longer for the RPM to drop before engaging the next gear. That leaves you out of gear for a moment longer. And if you don't wait, then you will be using the syncros more.

But really there is no point in this. If you are driving hard and revving the engine then you're giving up performance. If you are trundling along in traffic then you probably want to shift up as soon as you can to keep the revs down. By skipping gears you are running the RPM higher than necessary.

So either way there doesn't seem a sense to it.

And I don't even think it is the lazy way to drive. 1-3-5 are not easy shifts to make because of the arrangement of the gate. 1-2-3-4-5-6 is very natural for most drivers. Why even try to un-learn that? (Though I do regularly skip gears when down-shifting.)

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Old 11-01-2006, 10:46 AM
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I rather go 6 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 on the freeway.:-)
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I prefer the general 1-2-3-4-5-6 with short shift 1-2 (because 1 is so damn short),
and near redline in 2-5 (whenever I can!)

No, I do not save my car for the next guy or have seat covers on my seats...

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Originally Posted by Fill
please explain why you have a GT3.......inquiring minds need to know???
Exactly

You could always get a nice Tiptronic 996 / 997 & save all the effort of changing gear at all!



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