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Why does every artical on the GT3....
Go out of its way to say how hard a car it is to drive fast? Is it so much different than a 996 or 993 C2, or even a 964 Turbo? Has Porsche come so far with the "drive by wire" or cpu that when a car likes the GT3 comes along, eveyone has forgot how to drive?
You think that on little mistake and you're in big trouble in a GT3. Now I have not picked up my car yet. But how hard can it be? With all the upgrades in suspension and tires, I'd think it would be more drivable than my past 993 C2 and past C4S???
You think that on little mistake and you're in big trouble in a GT3. Now I have not picked up my car yet. But how hard can it be? With all the upgrades in suspension and tires, I'd think it would be more drivable than my past 993 C2 and past C4S???
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It will be a very different car than your 993 C4, that I can tell you, its like anything else, you will adapt to it the more you use it, its raw and the driver needs to be on their toes, it will not be nearly as forgiving as your C4.
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I think my GT3 is a pussycat. I've had several sports cars in my brief life...the most ill handling one I owned was the MCoupe. Very tough at the limit, but a lot of fun!!!
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Rolo - I think you'll find your GT3 to be no more difficult to drive than your 993. More power means you have to control your right foot but that applies to a 993 TT which has no more electronic safety nets than a GT3. I suspect that some road testers are indirectly praising themselves.
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I think part of it is the power, and the feeling that it is invincible, with your desire to drive it to the limit. I don't think a Ford Focus inspires people to drive to the limit, but the GT3 is readily capable, and apparently feels like it asks you to. Of course, all that power and low weight, combined with the rear engine layout isn't exactly a recipe for easy driving.
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It will be a very different car than your 993 C4, that I can tell you, its like anything else, you will adapt to it the more you use it, its raw and the driver needs to be on their toes, it will not be nearly as forgiving as your C4.
I understand that, but why is it any different than a C2 or a 964 Turbo. I understand its a raw beast. But why is it made out to be one of the hardest Porsche 's ever to drive.
I fully intend on learning the car. I won't do another driving event untill June. And at that one I'll be going 70 -% until I have a better understanding of the car. I just don't understand all lthe red flag warnings to the extent they have been tossed around.
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Originally Posted by Rolo
I understand that, but why is it any different than a C2 or a 964 Turbo. I understand its a raw beast. But why is it made out to be one of the hardest Porsche 's ever to drive.
I fully intend on learning the car. I won't do another driving event untill June. And at that one I'll be going 70 -% until I have a better understanding of the car. I just don't understand all lthe red flag warnings to the extent they have been tossed around.
I fully intend on learning the car. I won't do another driving event untill June. And at that one I'll be going 70 -% until I have a better understanding of the car. I just don't understand all lthe red flag warnings to the extent they have been tossed around.
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It's all relative, I believe its easier than a GT2, due to the lower horsepower and the evenness of power delivery.
It is NOT hard to drive, you just have to pay more attention and not do stupid things. My Boxster S allows me to get away with mistakes on the track, that my GT3 would punish. That is all. Just respect the car, build up to it slowly and you will be fine. In some ways it can be easier, the brakes are fantastic, the suspension so good, that you will be able to do things on the track you would never dream of. The biggest "whoops" item probably comes from stomping on the accelerator rather than easing into it and before the car (suspension and tires) are ready for it and too much trail braking. If you are careful on the gas and slowly learn how much to trail brake, I don't think you should have any problems.
It is NOT hard to drive, you just have to pay more attention and not do stupid things. My Boxster S allows me to get away with mistakes on the track, that my GT3 would punish. That is all. Just respect the car, build up to it slowly and you will be fine. In some ways it can be easier, the brakes are fantastic, the suspension so good, that you will be able to do things on the track you would never dream of. The biggest "whoops" item probably comes from stomping on the accelerator rather than easing into it and before the car (suspension and tires) are ready for it and too much trail braking. If you are careful on the gas and slowly learn how much to trail brake, I don't think you should have any problems.
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Originally Posted by JLJ
because most people are wussies. it is easy to drive if you learn how to drive. if you suck then you will crash a ford escort. it has unreal grip, excellent brakes and chassis. the car seems to do everything in slow motion and yet you are flying. slides are easily caught, hammer it out of corners and the LSD digs in and you accelerate. balance it on the throttle, lift to tighten the corner, feel the car rotate that big *** and you get it. keep your foot in it... you will have no problems unless you just have problems with any car
NOW THATS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!
I'm Italian ,driving is in my blood!
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Originally Posted by Rolo
NOW THATS WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR!
I'm Italian ,driving is in my blood!
I'm Italian ,driving is in my blood!
passed pretty much everyone and lapped most at all events. car is awesome and the harder you drive it the more awesome it is. grab it by the neck and kick its ***
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The car is much more sensitive to inputs than my old 996 C2. It reacts RIGHT NOW. I've only done 2 DE's, but am feeling much more confident now than when I first had it on track. Everything happens more quickly with the GT3 and the handling is especially more direct. If you're not used to driving a dedicated track car/race car it's a whole new ballgame when behind the wheel of a GT3...
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Originally Posted by Holger B
The car is much more sensitive to inputs than my old 996 C2. It reacts RIGHT NOW. I've only done 2 DE's, but am feeling much more confident now than when I first had it on track. Everything happens more quickly with the GT3 and the handling is especially more direct. If you're not used to driving a dedicated track car/race car it's a whole new ballgame when behind the wheel of a GT3...
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how much experience do you have in dedicated race / track cars
I did a good number of DE's in my old 996, and as vegasgolf pointed out about his Boxster, you can make mistakes in those cars that you can't get away with in the GT3. There's a learning curve if you're stepping up from one of those to a GT3, particularly remembering that the throttle is not an on/off switch.
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Speaking of GT3s and TT's --today I was with a friend in my TT and I was going around a corner pretty quick I was fighting to stay on line and then there was a little abrupt change and I had ALOT of understeer. I did not lose the back end or lift but I did not seem to lose directional control. after the corner srtaightened out I got the grip back. Was I in a AWD four wheel slide and what would have happened in a GT3? seeing as thats my next car? Or is there not enough info here? it was kinda wierd cause after that abrupt change I could turn the wheel easily as opposed to just before when I was fighting the wheel alittle bit. any ideas??
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Speaking of GT3s and TT's --today I was with a friend in my TT and I was going around a corner pretty quick I was fighting to stay on line and then there was a little abrupt change and I had ALOT of understeer. I did not lose the back end or lift but I did not seem to lose directional control. after the corner srtaightened out I got the grip back. Was I in a AWD four wheel slide and what would have happened in a GT3? seeing as thats my next car? Or is there not enough info here? it was kinda wierd cause after that abrupt change I could turn the wheel easily as opposed to just before when I was fighting the wheel alittle bit. any ideas??
I have felt that many times in my 4S in turn seven at road Atlanta and turn 12. That was a beautiful car, the way it shifted power to the front wheels and pulled you out of trouble and through a corner. Great car