New to the 996
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
New to the 996
I wanted to say hello and ask for opinions. I have owned 928s, 914s and an early 911 but just yesterday bought my first 996. I got a smoking deal on a high mile 1999 C4 that appears to have been meticulousely maintained including an IMS bearing replacement but this is the rub. The service records are not available so other than the POs word, I have no way to tell that the IMS was in fact replaced about 60,000 miles ago as stated.
Here are my questions to you.
1)Is there a way, with a scope or something to confirm that the bearing was truely replaced? I plan to replace it either way, just deciding on timing.
2) I would like to hear other people's opinion on if I can wait till fall or if I should take it straight to the shop when I take delivery.
Here are my questions to you.
1)Is there a way, with a scope or something to confirm that the bearing was truely replaced? I plan to replace it either way, just deciding on timing.
2) I would like to hear other people's opinion on if I can wait till fall or if I should take it straight to the shop when I take delivery.
#2
Rennlist Member
What type of bearing was used? If they say it's an LN bearing, there should be a serial # sticker somewhere on the car. They're often on or under the drivers side door or jam (mine's on the lower underside of the drivers door). They're also often put somewhere in the engine bay. The rub with this (as is the case with mine) is that, if the installer didn't send the bearing back to LN (i.e. register it), they'll have no record of what bearing it actually is, or by whom and when it was done. One thing they will be able to tell you is the date of manufacture of the bearing - it's up to you to deduce the rest from there. Good Luck
#3
Drifting
Welcome to 996 World! Like they say around here "pictures or it didn't happen!"
No expert here but I believe the only way to tell is drop the transmission and review the outer cover. Did PO indicate what type of bearing was used? If LN part, they might have a record. Then there is the double-row discussion i.e. much lower failure rate compared to the later single row.
There should be some very knowledgeable folks address your questions more fully, soon.
No expert here but I believe the only way to tell is drop the transmission and review the outer cover. Did PO indicate what type of bearing was used? If LN part, they might have a record. Then there is the double-row discussion i.e. much lower failure rate compared to the later single row.
There should be some very knowledgeable folks address your questions more fully, soon.
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LN Engineering themselves say for their ceramic bearing every 75k or 6 years. FWIW. I think the bigger question is your intent with the car. If you want to drive it 2-3 years and then move on you could leave it as is (on a high mileage car). If you intent to keep it longer, then I would swap it now so you are good to go for the next 6-8 years. You might also consider first other priorities; high on my list would be temperature management. So replace waterpump, maybe new thermostat, clean radiators, replace if necessary.
To me IMS, AOS and temp mgt are the 3 biggies.
Volkert
To me IMS, AOS and temp mgt are the 3 biggies.
Volkert
#6
Instructor
Thread Starter
Good point on the intention question. I plan to hold on to it long term and drive it the way that Porsche intended. It will get plenty of spirited miles over several years.
Thanks for the service recommendations. I plan to do any maintenance that I can't prove was already done.
Thanks for the service recommendations. I plan to do any maintenance that I can't prove was already done.
#7
Race Director
The '99 is the most robust year of the "replaceable" IMS years. Assuming the original engine (which you can verify by checking the engine number), and the production year is '98 (check the door jamb), the dual-row retrofit bearing is going to be of the none-of-em-have-ever-failed variety.
I bought my '99 with no service records, and from a third party...I didn't even get the chance to look the previous owner in the eye and shake his hand. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this approach to the risk-averse, but at least in my case I couldn't be happier. 4 years in, I still find surprises - while changing my starter, I discovered the previous owner installed a Turbo Mike (now IPD) plenum. Every time I dig into an aftermarket part, or I remove a previously installed component, it has proved to be top-notch, either OEM or top-of-the-line aftermarket.
I bought my '99 with no service records, and from a third party...I didn't even get the chance to look the previous owner in the eye and shake his hand. I wouldn't necessarily recommend this approach to the risk-averse, but at least in my case I couldn't be happier. 4 years in, I still find surprises - while changing my starter, I discovered the previous owner installed a Turbo Mike (now IPD) plenum. Every time I dig into an aftermarket part, or I remove a previously installed component, it has proved to be top-notch, either OEM or top-of-the-line aftermarket.
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#8
Burning Brakes
I wanted to say hello and ask for opinions. I have owned 928s, 914s and an early 911 but just yesterday bought my first 996. I got a smoking deal on a high mile 1999 C4 that appears to have been meticulousely maintained including an IMS bearing replacement but this is the rub. The service records are not available so other than the POs word, I have no way to tell that the IMS was in fact replaced about 60,000 miles ago as stated.
Here are my questions to you.
1)Is there a way, with a scope or something to confirm that the bearing was truely replaced? I plan to replace it either way, just deciding on timing.
2) I would like to hear other people's opinion on if I can wait till fall or if I should take it straight to the shop when I take delivery.
Here are my questions to you.
1)Is there a way, with a scope or something to confirm that the bearing was truely replaced? I plan to replace it either way, just deciding on timing.
2) I would like to hear other people's opinion on if I can wait till fall or if I should take it straight to the shop when I take delivery.
I'm doing mine now with an LN bearing, plus clutch kit, AOS, water pump. They aren't too bad to work on these cars.
#9
Instructor
Thread Starter
It's finally home. Like I said, it was a great deal but it does have a few problems.
First there is no service history, so I made an appointment for the 15th to have the IMS bearing replaced, clutch checked and a general inspection to make sure nothing else is wrong.
The car has a warm start issue. I plan to burn through a tank of gas to make sure that it isn't just bad fuel. I suspect that it isn't but will see what I find. It basically acts like it is vapor locked when hot.
And the biggest problem of all, the cigarette lighter fuse was blown!!!
First there is no service history, so I made an appointment for the 15th to have the IMS bearing replaced, clutch checked and a general inspection to make sure nothing else is wrong.
The car has a warm start issue. I plan to burn through a tank of gas to make sure that it isn't just bad fuel. I suspect that it isn't but will see what I find. It basically acts like it is vapor locked when hot.
And the biggest problem of all, the cigarette lighter fuse was blown!!!
#11
Instructor
Thread Starter
I drove the 996 to work this morning. I'll probably park it this afternoon and leave it until the IMS bearing is replaced in a couple of weeks. I love driving the car but am constantly worried about the bearing.
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Burning Brakes