IMS Solution question
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From: L.I. NY
Well then, I hope you got a nice chunk of $ when you sold it! Judging by the retail price, I'd think you did...Besides that, I know your development time/costs were probably mind blowing - I hope you covered them many times over 
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Instructor
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From: San Jose, CA
The product is good, i did not see any of these gone bad yet. I don't really need the warranty if my engine blows up. But i trust the product, trust my Indy and thank you the forum.
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From: Cleveland Georgia
Its not about money with me.. I was going to keep the Solution for my own engines. I only sold the technology so it could be used to spank the asses off the copy cats. Those guys loved it when they came along with their "products" (That I already developed 5 years before!) and I was refusing to install Solutions outside of my own engines.
The retail price of the Solution has very little margin in it. The units have may expensive processes carried out, and the DLC coating is carried out in France, requiring every unit to be shipped to, and from. Only one company could develop a DLC process that was optimized for the application. That alone is expensive as hell, and adds months to the production time of a batch of units. The bushing material is also very expensive, and sold by the inch. It also leads to a lot of scrap, due to the design of the bushing, and the fact that the stock is only available in 3" diameter bars, roughly twice the diameter of the IMS Solution bushing.
I sold it for the simple purpose of reducing their success. Thats all I cared about, and all I still care about! Its worth way more than money to me, I can make more of that!
No, there's been ZERO failures of the IMS Solution to date. With nothing to fail, thats to be expected.
The retail price of the Solution has very little margin in it. The units have may expensive processes carried out, and the DLC coating is carried out in France, requiring every unit to be shipped to, and from. Only one company could develop a DLC process that was optimized for the application. That alone is expensive as hell, and adds months to the production time of a batch of units. The bushing material is also very expensive, and sold by the inch. It also leads to a lot of scrap, due to the design of the bushing, and the fact that the stock is only available in 3" diameter bars, roughly twice the diameter of the IMS Solution bushing.
I sold it for the simple purpose of reducing their success. Thats all I cared about, and all I still care about! Its worth way more than money to me, I can make more of that!
No, there's been ZERO failures of the IMS Solution to date. With nothing to fail, thats to be expected.
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From: Riverside, CA
I have my car with an Indy, he will follow all of the steps from the IMS Solution manual and I believe that things will be good. Once my car is done I will update with pictures and suggest the Indy to become IMS certified installer to serve folks like me in northern California.
Thanks,
Thanks,
Jake - I also sent you an email asking the same thing. Surely there is a shop in the Bay Area that has passed your sniff test?
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From: Cleveland Georgia
[QUOTE=Wangta;14787175
Jake - I also sent you an email asking the same thing. Surely there is a shop in the Bay Area that has passed your sniff test?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately no. Every shop that Mr. Raby invites from the Bay Area either supports copycat IMS products, or they cannot pass the Certified Installer evaluation.
Jake - I also sent you an email asking the same thing. Surely there is a shop in the Bay Area that has passed your sniff test?[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately no. Every shop that Mr. Raby invites from the Bay Area either supports copycat IMS products, or they cannot pass the Certified Installer evaluation.
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From: Riverside, CA
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“RMS and Tranny seals (Should not charge on labor) but an estimate was $800”.
No labor cost, really? Okay let me see what’s included…
The labor price includes (for a Callas Rennsport “RMS Kit”):
- The RMS (Rear Main Seal) removed and replaced with proper factory tools and information.
- The GMS (Gearbox Main-shaft Seal) removed and replaced with proper factory tools and information.
- The Gearbox release bearing guide tube inspected and replaced if necessary.
- The complete gearbox bell housing and rear of engine cleaned and inspected.
- The 4 engine case bolts, as mentioned in the TSB, replaced and other accessible ones tightened.
- All components including the clutch operating fork, ball-pin bushing, slave cylinder, etc all inspected and replaced as necessary.
Here’s what it takes:
1) We had to purchase almost $1,500.00 in tools to replace the Rear main seal, Gearbox main-shaft seal and check the crankshaft-crankcase alignment with a Go-No Go gauge (RMS install tool, GMS removal tool, GMS install tool and crankshaft alignment tool). That’s all once we have the shop, the car in the shop and the car disassembled.
2) I have all USA legal, fully insured, trained, all benefits included, well compensated Porsche technicians.
3) We have all the factory manuals, information, TI’s (Technical Service Bulletins) and even dealer only ATI’s (Advanced Technical Information) Bulletins (this is invaluable and costs I don't know how many tens of thousands of dollars).
4) We offer a 3 year – 36,000 miles warranty on almost all repairs, who else offers this?
5) With Callas Rennsport you have very experienced, knowledgeable and technically trained Porsche technicians servicing and working on your car, this is what everybody prefers, right?
Try taking your store bought steak into a high quality restaurant, ask them to cook it for you and then expect the highest quality at a fair price. Then complain to them stating that you’re not satisfied, then complain online that you weren’t happy with that restaurant, it happens every day in the automotive field…
Thank you,
Tony
No labor cost, really? Okay let me see what’s included…
The labor price includes (for a Callas Rennsport “RMS Kit”):
- The RMS (Rear Main Seal) removed and replaced with proper factory tools and information.
- The GMS (Gearbox Main-shaft Seal) removed and replaced with proper factory tools and information.
- The Gearbox release bearing guide tube inspected and replaced if necessary.
- The complete gearbox bell housing and rear of engine cleaned and inspected.
- The 4 engine case bolts, as mentioned in the TSB, replaced and other accessible ones tightened.
- All components including the clutch operating fork, ball-pin bushing, slave cylinder, etc all inspected and replaced as necessary.
Here’s what it takes:
1) We had to purchase almost $1,500.00 in tools to replace the Rear main seal, Gearbox main-shaft seal and check the crankshaft-crankcase alignment with a Go-No Go gauge (RMS install tool, GMS removal tool, GMS install tool and crankshaft alignment tool). That’s all once we have the shop, the car in the shop and the car disassembled.
2) I have all USA legal, fully insured, trained, all benefits included, well compensated Porsche technicians.
3) We have all the factory manuals, information, TI’s (Technical Service Bulletins) and even dealer only ATI’s (Advanced Technical Information) Bulletins (this is invaluable and costs I don't know how many tens of thousands of dollars).
4) We offer a 3 year – 36,000 miles warranty on almost all repairs, who else offers this?
5) With Callas Rennsport you have very experienced, knowledgeable and technically trained Porsche technicians servicing and working on your car, this is what everybody prefers, right?
Try taking your store bought steak into a high quality restaurant, ask them to cook it for you and then expect the highest quality at a fair price. Then complain to them stating that you’re not satisfied, then complain online that you weren’t happy with that restaurant, it happens every day in the automotive field…
Thank you,
Tony
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From: Edmond, OK
Try taking your store bought steak into a high quality restaurant, ask them to cook it for you and then expect the highest quality at a fair price. Then complain to them stating that you’re not satisfied, then complain online that you weren’t happy with that restaurant, it happens every day in the automotive field…
But I think there is a difference between steak and name brand, new in box auto parts. For one, using parts that someone else brought in doesn’t violate any health codes. My company is in a highly technical field and are often asked to do design and installation work of customer supplied eqiupment. We have a nice set of terms that basically says any time spent troubleshooting, RMA’ing, and reinstalling customer provided equipment will be charged at an hourly rate. If they buy it from us, that’s all covered. Like anything else, as long as expectations are set properly up front, most customers are fine with it. And the ones that aren’t were going to be pissed off no matter what we did.
Now as to the tone of my original post, for that I will apologize. It was unnecessarily caustic.
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