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Old 08-04-2016, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Gonzo911
Holy parsimony! Let's vote shall we? A) Switched engine B) Botched the IMS install-grenaded engine C) Coincidence
I think a D position of "botched IMSB install, but engine is repairable" is warranted.
Old 08-04-2016, 04:07 PM
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"Anyone who uses Occam's razor is invariably a pompous a-hole. Since I'm the guilty party, I guess I have reinforced this correlation. Dammit."

On a similar note, anyone who uses Occam's razor is bound to get nicked...
Old 08-04-2016, 04:50 PM
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If you can tell me where to look for the engine identification number on the engine, I will write it down (is it possible to see with the engine in the car?). I have all of the original paperwork and window sticker I kept from new. Would I be able to verify engine number I find on engine with any of that paperwork or do I need to contact the North American Porsche that a earlier poster suggested?
Old 08-04-2016, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason 996
If you can tell me where to look for the engine identification number on the engine, I will write it down (is it possible to see with the engine in the car?). I have all of the original paperwork and window sticker I kept from new. Would I be able to verify engine number I find on engine with any of that paperwork or do I need to contact the North American Porsche that a earlier poster suggested?
Yes it is. Driver side. Not sure on the last question.

Old 08-04-2016, 04:55 PM
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Great, that looks like it will be easily accessible. I will go and take a pic with my iPhone. Thank You, I really appreciate it!
Old 08-04-2016, 05:01 PM
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As long as we are throwing problem solving principles and paradoxical quantum superpositions in here...how about just plain ole Murphy's Law? Particularly with M96/97 engine repairs...been in there, done that....and then ordered the new parts. LOL

Hey...post up your engine number! Want to see that...
Old 08-04-2016, 05:10 PM
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Have you done any DIY fixes to the engine i.e. taped anything, patched anything, replaced a part that you bought yourself, any recognizable dents scratches or marking on the sump plate or areas, anything that you could identify by sight...

if so look for those fixes and verify they are present, if not, not the same engine...

I know if someone took out my engine, I would be able to recognize it by the fixes I've done myself and I've only had mine 7 months.

For example I put extensions on the coil pack heat shields when I upgraded the 996 coils to the 997 coils, i could identify the serpentine belt as I put some marks on it myself, I have a magnetic drain plug, etc.

Of course I know my engine number so that would not be an issue for me, but for OP I am just saying....
Old 08-04-2016, 05:11 PM
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For half a tick I thought that was OP's engine number and I was unable to process.
Old 08-04-2016, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason 996
If you can tell me where to look for the engine identification number on the engine, I will write it down (is it possible to see with the engine in the car?). I have all of the original paperwork and window sticker I kept from new. Would I be able to verify engine number I find on engine with any of that paperwork or do I need to contact the North American Porsche that a earlier poster suggested?
No there is nothing in the original purchase documentation that tells you what you engine number is. As far as I know begging Porsche to tell you is the only option.

Just remember, even if it doesn't match that still doesn't mean foul play unless you can somehow otherwise prove the motor was never swapped previously.
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This is a complete shot in the dark, but you could look at the metadata on the image files they sent you. I would pay attention to the creation date.

http://regex.info/exif.cgi
Old 08-04-2016, 05:36 PM
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I called Dealership where it was purchased from and the man look up old service records of mine and asked me to tell him the number and he could confirm if it was the same (to not give out info over the phone). It was confirmed.
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Good to hear. I guess the next step would be figure out if you want to save YOUR motor.
Old 08-04-2016, 05:44 PM
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I suggest you remove the oil filter and oil pan and see what you find there (minimal diy skills and tools). If you find lot's of debris, then at least you can confirm your engine needs a rebuild without investing extra $$ to further diagnose it. If it's not, you still have some hope and can still consider taking it to a reputable shop for evaluation. You have nothing to lose at this point.

Also, did they mention anything about that IMSB center stud broken off? I didn't see the broken piece in the photos. If it was sheared off, it would have dropped out when they removed the transmsission. I would expect they show you a broken piece. Or they just removed the center nut and pushed the stud into the IMS while trying to remove the flange?
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Originally Posted by gnat
I think a D position of "botched IMSB install, but engine is repairable" is warranted.
Given that (the engine number is correct), I vote for D. Do a D. DDDDDDDD
Please consider getting it to Vertex.
Old 08-04-2016, 05:48 PM
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Did you all understand Jake Raby to say in his post that the block was not rebuildable?
In which case would I need to buy another engine new or have to buy a used engine and have it rebuilt (which seems would be more costly than a new one is even if Porsche sell 01 3.4L anymore which i thought i read they do not)?
I take it even with no metal parts or pieces (visible to the eye) that the IMS replacement is totally out of the question, correct.


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