tokika

Wow, this is some scary ****! Time for me to pony up for a second key and move my wheel lock!

Hammerthrow

This has been useful beyond words. I think my car is sitting because they are going back and forth with Germany, trying to figure out what to do, plus I didnt really have an appointment, I just kind of left my car on that day because I had no choice, so it's probably not their top priority. Of course, my car is occupying one of their four service bays, and they can't get it out of their underground service bays without towing it again. I'm sure they'd like to get it out ASAP so they can deal with other cars. I'll ask them about the alarm module on Monday.

alpine003

Wrong, this is BS. There are 6 or 8 slots for new keys to be programmed into the immobilizer and unless all of them have been taken, you should be able to use one of the available slots.

I've personally had this done and looked over the guys shoulder the entire time at all the screens on the PST2.

Bubrubb

I am late to this thread, but am I understanding the following correctly?

1. Only key for car has gone missing
2. You have access to the cabin
3. You have access to the engine bay

Is the frunk still inaccessible?

What year is the 996?

CBR786

Wrong, this is BS. There are 6 or 8 slots for new keys to be programmed into the immobilizer and unless all of them have been taken, you should be able to use one of the available slots.

I've personally had this done and looked over the guys shoulder the entire time at all the screens on the PST2.

PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN CAREFULLY I HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE IF THIS ! Please take five minutes on Monday morning google another Porsche dealer and inform them you have lost all keys for a car and you wish to program new keys to the car regardless of if you want to program one key or two keys to the car they will state new alarm module required!!!!!!



THIS IS SIMPLE THE CAR IS LEFT IN A LOCKED STATE! hence the alarm is automatically armed to disarm the alarm a recognised key needs to be inserted into the ignition within 30 seconds of door opening otherwise alarm sounds ! NOW THE FACT YOUR BATTERY IS TOTALLY DEAD ALARM WILL NOT SOUND ! But once you power up via fuse box or cigar lighter the alarm will try to sound but will not be 100% as other devices will also be sucking the current at the same time including the dead battery! The Alarm ECU takes on board keys to start car their are 6 slots available but you cannot access your alarm ECU because it is in an alarmed state. To access that ECU the alarmed state has to be cancelled !!! This can only be done by recognised key !!! Which if you had in the first place you would not be needing to access the alarm ECU? As your car will start! A recognised key is one that is programmed to the ECU !


I am an absolute authority on this matter as I believe I am one of few people on here who can hack an alarm module on a Porsche 996 and I can introduce a key onto it with out IPASS CODES I simply remove the alarm module. I then open it up desolder a specific chip then read said chip reflash a code line then rewrite software to the chip and now key is on system and car will start. With out pst2 tester or IPASS codes !!

I can do this with out blowing my own trumpet because I am an authority on the matter. If you post out your old scrap alarm module I can post it back to you with a little glass rfid pill in a little bag back to you! Once you insert this pill into your key fob remove the existing one and your car will start! I am in the UK

THIS IS NOT BS I KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ONCE YOU GET IT SORTED PLEASE REPORT BACK ON HERE!
People on forums tend to quote BS but on this occasion I speak FACT !

CBR786

as a follow up just in case for some reason you decide to throw away those paper tags that are attached to the key heads you will need to buy new fobs again.

The Paper tags are attached to each fob contain a code string along the bottom which is a sequence of alphabet and numbers. This code string is to program the radio code frequency settings do your remote will work to unlock doors and lock. If you lose the code string (then you will need to buy new fobs) or mix them up from one fob to the other it can make it difficult for the Tech to program up.

after they have managed to program keys on ask for them tags back and keep them in your Porsche paper work as you cannot get that information on those tags again once you lose or discard them! (this is why used fobs on ebay have no value as they will most likey not come with those barcodes and cannot be reprogrammed to another P Car with out those barcodes.

I would not be too fussed about mixing the tags up after they have been programmed as some one with a piwis can figure out which key is currently in the ignition at what time and the first 4 letters of the code string are shown up on the computer display so the tech will be able to figure out which remote is playing up at a later date if he has the original bar code tag along side him as he attempts to diagnose remote faults!

HAVE YOU TRIED CONTACTING THE LOCAL POLICE STATION LOST AND FOUND DEPT WHERE YOU THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE LOST THE ORIGINAL KEY ? I HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST AND FOUND MY LOCAL STATION HAS A BIG BOX FULL OF KEYS HANDED IN BY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC! ITS A LONG SHOT BUT WONT COST ANYTHING TO FIND OUT

djantlive

Charge your batteries through the cig lighter for 2 days. It will allow you to open trunk.

What is the exact problem when key is programmed? Does the car not respond? There is a pill inside the key which must be recognized by the ecu. Do you have a tune which can prevent key programming?

What year is your 996. I don't see a lot of facts.

alpine003

First off you're wrong again. If you have absolute authority on this matter, why did you go to a dealer? Secondly, you couldn't figure out how to get a key paired to the immobilizer so your hack solution is to just disable it? And then recommend others do the same by paying you? Seems like you have some other motives going on if you're selling your services here.

Here's the facts. I had my immobilizer flooded so I ordered a used one off eBay. I ordered a new key from the dealer. Gold Master tech from Porsche dealer was able to marry the new key to a used immobilizer which already had 2 key slots taken up.

If your dealer can't do this type of stuff, you need to find someone more competent.

Bottom line is you DO NOT need a new immobilizer.

sweet victory

I like Alpine

CBR786

HMMMMM!

I went to the dealer to order a precut key to my vin number. they ordered me a precut blade. I do not have a machine shop in my garage and I do not have facilities to figure what the key laser cut should be from the vin number!

I am sure a GOLD MASTER TECH WITH THE HELP OF A DIAMOND PLATINIUM TECH COULD PROBABLY CUT A KEY FOR MY CAR BY JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURE OF MY CAR!!!!


I however had no keys what so ever so unless I guess the highs and lows in a blank key shank I am not yet to the standard of a Diamond platinium Gold tech yet! lol So I used the services of my local dealer to cut me a key blade from the vin details I gave him.

Secondly has any one ever tried getting IPASS codes for their car or any P car from a Porsche dealer ???? they are very reluctant to give this information out. Especially in the UK I am not sure about USA maybe they are more relaxed over the pond. Here in the UK if you ask for IPASS codes the dealer thinks you just called him something undesirable and gives you a funny look and points towards the EXIT.

Basically if you have the IPASS codes for any porsche and a posrche computer you can go steal that porsche very easily !

I managed to get the IPASS codes for my car and several other cars but my dealer contact moved to another car marque dealership, hence with a drought on IPASS codes I hacked the ALARM MODULE. By doing the hack I no longer need IPASS codes to put keys on to the Alarm Module. I have not disabled the alarm system or the car security as all I have done is access the alarm module without the need for a porsche computer or IPASS codes.

I know for a fact that a used Alarm module is of no use and is scrap! the only way a used alarm module can be used is if the seller sells The alarm module and the ECU and the transponder chip from the key all from the same car then this can be put into another porsche and the car will start if the seller gives the key fob head with the deal then the remote will work also!

all part numbers needed to be matching as well you cannot for example use a 2004 alarm module ecu for a 1999 car it will not work.

The only way you can start a car when you lose all keys is by buying a virgin alarm module !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the virgin alarm module is simply that VIRGIN no data on it !! then you have to introduce this VIRGIN module to the car ECU by programming it using the PIWIS after the module has been programmed then you can add up to 6 keys into the available slots!

a alarm module has to be married to the ECU and you cannot marry a used Alarm module that is BS as the alarm module will mismatch with the ECU and will not communicate in essence it will lock out communications.

The answer is simple GOOGLE A PORSCHE DEALER ,RING THEM , PLAY DEVILS ADVOCATE ASK THEM YOU LOST ALL KEYS ? ASK THEM WILL YOU NEED A VIRGIN ALARM MODULE AS WELL AS THE KEYS AND IPASS CODES ?

ASK TO SPEAK TO DIAMOND PLATINIUM GOLD PERIODIC TABLE ELEMENTS MASTER LORD VADER GURU TECH AND SEE IF HE CAN DO IT FOR YOU !!!

MY HACKING OF THE PORSCHE MODULE WAS A FREE SERVICE PROVIDED I DO NOT SEE MENTION OF ANY FEE'S ??? maybe the DIAMOND GOLD TECH MIS UNDERSTOOD MY POST AND DID NOT OR COULD NOT READ IT AND ASSUMED I WAS ASKING FOR FEE'S ??


NO KEYS! CAR LOCKED = NEW ALARM MODULE AND IPASS CODES TO PROGRAM UP NEW KEY TO CAR. FULL STOP

IF ANY DOUBTERS OUT THERE RING YOUR PORSCHE DEALER ASK TO SPEAK TO SERVICE DESK AND FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF !!!

CBR786

WHEN CAR IS LOCKED THE ALARM STATE IS ACTIVATED REGARDLESS !!! OF BATTERY CONDITION AND WHEN POWER RE INTRODUCED TO CAR THE ALARM WILL SOUND ! the effect will be the car thinks someone is trying to steal it and will lock out all communications with alarm module via a porsche computer until a recognised key is inserted into the ignition!

is this so hard to understand???? otherwise everyone would be stealing Porsche cars and the security system would be crap!

does it not make sense ??? I will attach pages from work shop manuals to settle this !!

5CHN3LL

Brother, you just spent hundreds of words blowing your trumpet. For future reference, any time you are referring to yourself as "the best," "the absolute authority," "the man," "pimp daddy alarm reprogrammer," or "ALARM G0D LuLZ," there is trumpeting afoot. Now that's OK - sounds like you have l337 skills...own it!

If you have your EEPROM flash procedure document somewhere, I'd be interested to take a look - flashing is becoming a lost art since OBD-II programming became a thing. It looks like there are some KILLER tools out there now - USB dongles with onboard ZIF DIP sockets. Much cooler than the massive boxes with RS-232 cables and a UV source...

Also worth nothing: There is more used of the word "virgin" in this thread than any other non-pr0n-related thread on the Internet.

CBR786

PLEASE READ THREAD "LOST MY ONLY SET OF KEYS!!!

i too was ignorant at some stage in my life and I learnt stuff ! I learnt the art of EEPROM flash and reading strings of code!

what I hate is people spoutin BS as fact !

and an alarm module only costs £220 here in the UK which is not much in the scheme of things!

CBR786

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alpine003

Even if you lose your only set of keys, you do NOT need a dealer to get keys made. Those in the know will know this(See below). Also it's clear you do not even know what a Gold master tech is as you are mocking the same system implemented by Porsche in describing the level of it's technicians/mechanics.