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Old 07-01-2015, 04:28 PM
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Hello

I had the top Mounts replaced on My Porsche 996 c4s 2004.

I took the car to garage that had the correct machine to alter the tracking and the Camber.
Unfortunately the guy was unable to alter the Camber he spent an hour trying but was unable to correct it.

He has suggested that I may need to get the lower control arms replaced as well🔫. I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue or has any suggestions.

Thanks in advance
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Is your car lowered? If it isn't, a good alignment shop should be able to get it back in spec assuming you don't have any other worn parts that would prevent the tech from getting/setting accurate alignment.
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Originally Posted by alpine003
Is your car lowered? If it isn't, a good alignment shop should be able to get it back in spec assuming you don't have any other worn parts that would prevent the tech from getting/setting accurate alignment.
No it's not lowered just standard set up.
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Reads that while the shop had the right machine it didn't have the right person operating the machine.
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Originally Posted by Roo996
I took the car to garage that had the correct machine to alter the tracking and the Camber.
Any great alignment shop should have one of the latest Hunter alignment racks with laser alignment. If they don't and/if operator is not really knowledgeable about these cars as Macster eluded to, I'd find another more specialized alignment place. There's no reason why they can't get you back to specs, especially on stock suspension, assuming the car hasn't been in a previous accident.

Did they at least give you a printout of the current alignment specs?
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If your local PCA club has a site/forum, ask where the track guys go for their alignments. You should be able to find at least one Porsche indy with alignment chops...

The bonus is that you can ask them to set the car up for how you plan to drive, which can be fairly different from the factory specs. Some people want a more aggressive setup; others want to completely dial out negative camber because they drive like pansies and want their tires to last 60K miles...
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It all depends on what the mechanic was trying to do and how much he knows about the model line.

One possibilities, outside of him being a dunce:
In a stock C4 suspension setup, it is very difficult to get any negative camber on the fronts. In order to do so, you may need to replace the LCA's with GT3 type, as they are adjustable to add negative camber. There are other Frankenstein ways to achieve it, but can require some custom machining.

If he was referring to material related to a C2, the front suspension architecture and adjustment points are different in a C4, which may have also caused an issue.
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Originally Posted by Macster
Reads that while the shop had the right machine it didn't have the right person operating the machine.
You are probably correct. I will make enquires and take the car to another shop.
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Originally Posted by alpine003
Any great alignment shop should have one of the latest Hunter alignment racks with laser alignment. If they don't and/if operator is not really knowledgeable about these cars as Macster eluded to, I'd find another more specialized alignment place. There's no reason why they can't get you back to specs, especially on stock suspension, assuming the car hasn't been in a previous accident. Did they at least give you a printout of the current alignment specs?
They did give me a print out which showed me where the Camber and alignment was before after they had checked it. The car hasn't been in any accidents as Macster suggested probably the guy doing the work. Thanks for your input
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
If your local PCA club has a site/forum, ask where the track guys go for their alignments. You should be able to find at least one Porsche indy with alignment chops... The bonus is that you can ask them to set the car up for how you plan to drive, which can be fairly different from the factory specs. Some people want a more aggressive setup; others want to completely dial out negative camber because they drive like pansies and want their tires to last 60K miles...
Thanks that's probably a good place to start looking for the correct place to do the geometry.
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Originally Posted by Bubrubb
It all depends on what the mechanic was trying to do and how much he knows about the model line. One possibilities, outside of him being a dunce: In a stock C4 suspension setup, it is very difficult to get any negative camber on the fronts. In order to do so, you may need to replace the LCA's with GT3 type, as they are adjustable to add negative camber. There are other Frankenstein ways to achieve it, but can require some custom machining. If he was referring to material related to a C2, the front suspension architecture and adjustment points are different in a C4, which may have also caused an issue.
You may be correct in saying that he set up for the wrong car. When he was selecting the car on the computer it only seemed to have cars up to the year 2000. I wasn't convinced at the time.
Hopefully that is the issue
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Originally Posted by Roo996
You may be correct in saying that he set up for the wrong car. When he was selecting the car on the computer it only seemed to have cars up to the year 2000. I wasn't convinced at the time.
Hopefully that is the issue
When he was selecting the car on the computer it only seemed to have cars up to the year 2000.

Correction: Wrong tech and wrong equipment.

Find another shop.



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