New 996 Owner. 1st Porsche.
#91
Race Director
I am stunned by the reduction in weight depending on rotor manufacturer. If you don't mind me asking, what is the price penalty? What an interesting build you have going on.
#92
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The brakes are installed!
Parts Breakdown:
GT3 Front and Rear Calipers
High Temp Pistons and Seals by RacingBrake
Coleman Two Piece - 350mm Fixed Rotors with Aluminum Hats
Hawk HPS Pads
SS Lines by DNA
Motul RBF 600 Fluid
Work Underway
Chris's German Auto - Redmond, WA
Front Left
Front Right
Front Right - Angle
Rear Left
Rear Left - Angle
Rear Right
Rear Right - Angle
Parts Breakdown:
GT3 Front and Rear Calipers
High Temp Pistons and Seals by RacingBrake
Coleman Two Piece - 350mm Fixed Rotors with Aluminum Hats
Hawk HPS Pads
SS Lines by DNA
Motul RBF 600 Fluid
Work Underway
Chris's German Auto - Redmond, WA
Front Left
Front Right
Front Right - Angle
Rear Left
Rear Left - Angle
Rear Right
Rear Right - Angle
#93
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Fixed/Floating:
Coleman Racing - $900 per pair
Girodisc - $1200 per pair
Brembo - $1800 per pair
Stock Iron:
Zimmerman - $260 per pair
Sebro - $280 per pair
OEM - $500 per pair
There isn't much in cost savings however the replacement costs on the fixed/floating options are close to stock. The real investment is the aluminum hats. Once I wear out the rotors, new ones will only be about $100-$150 each.
This comes with a few caveats. I had to ship a set of stock 997 Turbo rotors from Pelican to Coleman so they could measure them and provide blueprints. It would have been much easier to buy the Girodisc or Brembo options however the cost savings appear to be worth the extra effort.
Last edited by vandersmith; 02-26-2016 at 04:14 PM.
#94
#95
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All done!
1st Impressions: The car stops. Smooth and noticeably more balanced deceleration. At speed the feeling of the rear trying to overtake the front is almost completely gone. The new pedal feel is really different. The brake pedal goes in about 1.5" before you feel it working due to the larger calipers needing more fluid to move. The stock master cylinder is 24mm, I have the larger 27mm GT3 Master Cylinder but want to give this a run for a little while. It may actually be better for heel toeing at the track as that little bit of play makes it easier to blip the throttle without severe braking. The Hawk pads seem fine for the street but definitely are too soft for anything more serious.
Also - buy H&R. My Eibach 24mm rear sway bar was toast! Was wondering where all that new understeer was coming from.
1st Impressions: The car stops. Smooth and noticeably more balanced deceleration. At speed the feeling of the rear trying to overtake the front is almost completely gone. The new pedal feel is really different. The brake pedal goes in about 1.5" before you feel it working due to the larger calipers needing more fluid to move. The stock master cylinder is 24mm, I have the larger 27mm GT3 Master Cylinder but want to give this a run for a little while. It may actually be better for heel toeing at the track as that little bit of play makes it easier to blip the throttle without severe braking. The Hawk pads seem fine for the street but definitely are too soft for anything more serious.
Also - buy H&R. My Eibach 24mm rear sway bar was toast! Was wondering where all that new understeer was coming from.
#101
Race Car
#102
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#103
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Numerics Shifter Installed
Got a brief moment this afternoon to knock out the shifter.
Here's a few shots:
Stock Shift ****<br/>997 Shifter Mount<br/>B&M Short Shift Kit
Starting off:
B&M Short Shift Kit
997 Shifter Mount
Top Down Comparison
Cable Mount Comparison. The stock unit has the cables drop in where they are then adjusted. The Numerics piece can be extended towards or away from the front of the car depending on the cable. This allows you take all of the slack out of the line along with a much more stable connection. This makes the cables do what they were designed to do. Move. Securely. Any bikers on here will know what I'm talking about.
997 Shifter Mount - Drivers Side View
Numerics - Drivers Side View
997 Shifter Mount - Front View
Numerics - Front View
997 Shifter Mount - Passenger Side View
Numerics - Passenger Side View
Carpet Removal - Needed for the shortest setting on the Numerics. Simple box cutter works.
Test Fitting
Installed!
Setting the Desired Shift Point. There are 3 mounting points.<br/><br/>From Highest to Lowest.<br/>3. Really, Really Short Shifts. Too Short IMO.<br/>2. Short Shifts - Compares to B&M<br/>1. Stock Length Shifts
All Done! Found a good deal on a CF radio shroud to match.
Initial Impressions:
I wish I had done this sooner. The shifts are so much smoother. I am in shock. If you're in the keep it stock camp, this has to be on your list. It really is a must have. The in gear play is gone. 2nd 3rd, 4th 5th is especially improved.
It feels like I'm shifting with cheat codes on.
Here's a few shots:
Stock Shift ****<br/>997 Shifter Mount<br/>B&M Short Shift Kit
Starting off:
B&M Short Shift Kit
997 Shifter Mount
Top Down Comparison
Cable Mount Comparison. The stock unit has the cables drop in where they are then adjusted. The Numerics piece can be extended towards or away from the front of the car depending on the cable. This allows you take all of the slack out of the line along with a much more stable connection. This makes the cables do what they were designed to do. Move. Securely. Any bikers on here will know what I'm talking about.
997 Shifter Mount - Drivers Side View
Numerics - Drivers Side View
997 Shifter Mount - Front View
Numerics - Front View
997 Shifter Mount - Passenger Side View
Numerics - Passenger Side View
Carpet Removal - Needed for the shortest setting on the Numerics. Simple box cutter works.
Test Fitting
Installed!
Setting the Desired Shift Point. There are 3 mounting points.<br/><br/>From Highest to Lowest.<br/>3. Really, Really Short Shifts. Too Short IMO.<br/>2. Short Shifts - Compares to B&M<br/>1. Stock Length Shifts
All Done! Found a good deal on a CF radio shroud to match.
Initial Impressions:
I wish I had done this sooner. The shifts are so much smoother. I am in shock. If you're in the keep it stock camp, this has to be on your list. It really is a must have. The in gear play is gone. 2nd 3rd, 4th 5th is especially improved.
It feels like I'm shifting with cheat codes on.
#105
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I wouldn't take a serious look at this shifter (because of the price) unless you're in one of two camps:
1. Your keeping your car stock. Treat yourself to a great, great shifter.
2. You've done everything else and are also going to do cables.
If you're anywhere between, there are better places to spend $649. The 997 shifter is a great setup and if there is money burning a hole in your pocket you can add the Function First Shift Right solution if you really feel like it.
The radio doesn't make the car going any faster so I've stuck with the stock unit paired to a Dension Gateway and a Bluetooth adapter. It works pretty well but needs to be on CD Changer/Track 99 to work.
Took it out for a test drive tonight with the Black Angels blaring
Last edited by vandersmith; 03-04-2016 at 02:27 AM. Reason: Grammar Queen