alpine003

I believe he is already a member. Didn't check to see if it was advertised here though.

5CHN3LL

+1. The rear fenders are stout - a mighty whack was required to wreck that fender to that extent and break/bend the wheel (an assumption, since the donut is being used). An alignment sheet if available would go a long way to assuage the concerns of the **** Porsche buyer.

1999Aero911

A symptom of intermix? Is this a joke? You mean BESIDES the milkshake? I would like to know how a person who has never seen, heard, or ran/drove the car can tell another person the car does NOT have a healthy engine. Especially more-so than a person who has owned it for over 2 years and the prior owner owned it for 13 years.

Name one "inaccurate claim" of mine. I believe the issue is "inaccurate claims" of others and an owner actually trying to get the truth out about a car instead of a one-sided conversation made from people who would have never bought the car in the first place.

TonyTwoBags

Don't take it personally - focus on gathering as much info as possible and getting some interested buyers (in the correct sub-forum). The more time you spend in the 996 forum arguing the more frustration you'll go through.

It may end up that a few test drives and a thorough PPI will be the ticket to a clean sale.

GLWS

gnat

And he didn't post it here, I did. He just came in and laid claim to the car/ad as being his. I'm not the forum police, but I see no issue here.

Slakker

Ok, my apologies, I missed that. But I do disagree with his claim that no service history on a 17 year old car is not an issue. I also disagree with his statement that there is no reason to perform any of the recommended preventative maintenance that keeps the engine from going boom because you can tell in advance. I have personal experience going both routes and one seems to work a helluva a lot better than the other.

I also disagree that none of us are potential buyers. I would buy it in a heartbeat, swap the aero on to mine, and resell it for 13k if I thought my wife wouldn't find out(yes, I'm a *****) and that I knew I wasn't screwing the next buyer with it. I would at a minimum swap out the AOS before I did though.

5CHN3LL

I bought my '99 without a single page of maintenance history. Some people can't imagine not having a maintenance history; some of us think you can determine how a car was maintained with or without a 4" thick 3-ring binder. Example: The meticulously maintained C4S that another forum member sold with REAMS of service history - but he neglected to mention that one of those procedures was carried out using a non-standard part that subsequently boned the buyer.

The service history is often a lot like the contents of Hillary's email server - the "unimportant/personal" stuff may have been removed. You think you're getting the full picture, but you may in fact be getting a heavily edited history.

I agree that this reasoning isn't great, but on the other hand, getting a completely stock, unmolested car also proves that the car has been reliable and that nothing has failed and been fixed under the guise of PM.

Not going there.

Mark Dreyer

Hey the Boxster is an awesome car!

gnat

What inaccurate claims have been made? We have commented on the state of the car based on the information that you have provided either here or in the ad.

You are correct that looking at pictures and text is not going to give you the truest information about the car, but those are the hooks to get people's attention to look farther.

All the items that have been commented on are things your potential buyers are also going to think. For you to just blow off the concerns and questions as "inaccurate" is only shooting yourself in the foot if you really want to sell the car.

We also aren't new to the 996 world and know all of it's foibles. We also know well that many of the catastrophic failures happen with no warning what so ever. So saying that it's perfectly healthy when you haven't had it that long, haven't driven it that much, and have no history doesn't mean much.

Service history is key to know how the car has been treated and taken care of, especially a low milage car which have a loose correlation to some of these problems. Without the history people have to guess and given the cost of a M96, that's a hefty gamble so they are going to be concerned and question things.

Slakker

Is that yours? That thing is amazing looking.

The '99 aero: The bottom line is at $15k, it is a good deal pending a proper PPI. I would buy that car. I would spend $800 to replace the AOS, water pump and add a spin on adapter and IMS guardian. I would be aware that at some point, the clutch, FW, IMS or RMS may need attention and it's probably best to do all of them at that time (unless FW doesn't need it.)

But everything gnat just said I spot on. Your risk is increased significantly on a purchase like this.

gnat

Yeap and an excellent example. I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car without the history (hell when/if we ever sell our we will not be passing it's history on. they can look at it, but it does not go with the car), but being able to see the history gives you another piece of the puzzle to answer questions that could be raised.

You and I are in the same camp of preferring an unmolested car (IMSB), but without any history you don't know if it is unmolested or not (though as you point out it's also possible to have been molested and just not in the docs).

Well it certainly explains why he is attracted to a certain type of "lady"

I wasn't being sarcastic

OK, I was about Slakk buying it, but not about it being an awesome AutoX car.

alpine003

Believe it or not, there ARE some people that do buy cars without service histories. This happens more often though at a dealership.

As for PM, I believe he is in the Riad camp and that other guy that has 300k miles on his car.

Slakker

Hey hey hey! Technically you can go all the way to 2nd base with a tranny without being gay, as long as you didn't know. All I did was look. Now if you round 3rd and still head for home that's an entirely different matter.

JimmyB

Many years ago, when I was young and poor, I bought an old Peugeot turbo diesel from a dealer, sight unseen and with no history, because the price was too good to pass up. Got it home and found the service history in the trunk, full of dealer stamps. Loved that car.

How much does the aero kit add to the price of a 996? I know it was a $$$$ option when new.

Slakker

$3k in my opinion. With a little patience you can put a used one together cheaper than that but will be close or over with painting and mounting.