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Old 07-10-2013, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
Exactly what I plan to buy if and when I do the clutch.
you really don't need this to do a clutch.

a) if you want to support your engine while the transmission is out your jack will do it just fine - you can put a 2x4 under the jack if you are worried it's going to go down

b) even without a jack the engine will not fall down, it will rest on the suspension cross bar as long as the rear engine mounts are still connected (wouldn't recommend leaving it too long like this though, it's a bit too much angle)

The real use for this bar is if you plan to move the car while the transmission is out or if you plan on leaving the transmission out for a while, otherwise it's absolutely not necessary, especially if you're just doing a clutch/IMS/AOS job.

Also lining up the transmission when you put it back will be much easier if you can play with the engine height, which you can do with a jack but not with the support bar we discuss here
Old 07-10-2013, 03:51 PM
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b) even without a jack the engine will not fall down, it will rest on the suspension cross bar as long as the rear engine mounts are still connected (wouldn't recommend leaving it too long like this though, it's a bit too much angle)
This is a very bad way to do this. It puts an incredible amount of stress on motor mounts, hoses, lines, etc.

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Old 07-10-2013, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
This is a very bad way to do this. It puts an increible amount of stress on motor mounts, hoses, lines, etc.
yes, agree, motor mounts are the main issue (hoses and lines have enough slack).

I actually blew one of my OEM motor mounts like this before switching to semi-solid motor mounts.

this is why I was saying not to leave it like this any amount of time.

but you will want that "extreme" angle to get to the couple top bolts of the transmission on the passenger side, makes it a lot easier (a lot easier meaning it goes from dead impossible to a real pain to reach with long extensions)
Old 07-11-2013, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ta1
you really don't need this to do a clutch.

a) if you want to support your engine while the transmission is out your jack will do it just fine - you can put a 2x4 under the jack if you are worried it's going to go down

b) even without a jack the engine will not fall down, it will rest on the suspension cross bar as long as the rear engine mounts are still connected (wouldn't recommend leaving it too long like this though, it's a bit too much angle)

The real use for this bar is if you plan to move the car while the transmission is out or if you plan on leaving the transmission out for a while, otherwise it's absolutely not necessary, especially if you're just doing a clutch/IMS/AOS job.

Also lining up the transmission when you put it back will be much easier if you can play with the engine height, which you can do with a jack but not with the support bar we discuss here
I have a mid-rise lift so this should make the job easier. Also see this thread. The bar allows you to tilt the engine to line it up with the trans

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...yesterday.html
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
I have a mid-rise lift so this should make the job easier. Also see this thread. The bar allows you to tilt the engine to line it up with the trans

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...yesterday.html
now that's a good reason to buy the bar. If you're lucky enough to have a lift the "jack under the engine" method isn't going to help much.
Old 07-11-2013, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
I have a mid-rise lift so this should make the job easier. Also see this thread. The bar allows you to tilt the engine to line it up with the trans

https://rennlist.com/forums/996-foru...yesterday.html
Is your lift a mid-rise scissors? With your ride height, is there anything special you need to do to drive over it?
Old 07-11-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneaky Pete
Is your lift a mid-rise scissors? With your ride height, is there anything special you need to do to drive over it?
With stock ride height I could just drive on the 4" built-in ramps. With x74 (currently) I have to stick some 2x4's under the ramps

https://rennlist.com/forums/7759429-post35.html
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Ahsai, does your lift cause a problem in dropping the engine and trans as one unit?
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
Ahsai, does your lift cause a problem in dropping the engine and trans as one unit?
I haven't tried it yet but I don't expect any problems since the middle of the lift is completely open between the two ramps. What do you think?

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Old 07-11-2013, 11:27 PM
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Yep, looks like you could, if you have room for an ATV jack or other under there. Awesome, bet you cant wait to remove it.
Old 07-11-2013, 11:59 PM
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Holy Cow Ahsai, I think your underside might be "almost" as clean as KK's. which has me wondering if you drive your car a lot or not.
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Originally Posted by alpine003
Holy Cow Ahsai, I think your underside might be "almost" as clean as KK's. which has me wondering if you drive your car a lot or not.
Every single weekday and wish for more. About 7k ayr
I happen to enjoy both driving AND wrenching...
Old 07-12-2013, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
Yep, looks like you could, if you have room for an ATV jack or other under there. Awesome, bet you cant wait to remove it.
Part of me yes. I don't mind driving more and wrenching only when needed though. I wish I had your energy
Old 07-12-2013, 03:43 AM
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...cheapo engine support brace I made for about $20...
$20? I would never spend that much. Made this one for under $12:
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:20 PM
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^^^^^I can top that!!!! Made something similar for the 928. Left over 4x4 that came with the house and a small hydraulic jack to lift the engine AND a ratcheting strap. Total cost.....$0.00


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