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Old 03-15-2013, 09:31 PM
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I think you mean wearing RMS NOT IMS. If your IMS was to go the only weeping is going to come from you

Originally Posted by spiderv6
Sold my '03 a while back and the PPI picked up a weeping IMS (again....repaired twice) so I ended up discounting the sale price by the cost of a repair - $1,500 if I recall correctly.

Guess my only option would be to opt-out and go after them myself.....have neither the time or the will for that.
Old 03-15-2013, 09:51 PM
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The principle of Res Judicata would only apply to the class members who were included in the action.

If you opted out, it does not apply to you.

If you were not a class member res judicata does not apply to you.

Anyone else e.g. 99/00 or 06-08 can file a complaint and pursue their own claim, or a class action. But, if you want a real head start and shortcut, get the documents Porsche submitted during discovery of the instant case.
Old 03-15-2013, 09:56 PM
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Cefalu, I would be very happy if the records of discovery were made public - we'd finally get a better idea of what the truth is. I'm afraid that part of the settlement is that they will remain sealed. Certainly PCNA will want it that way.
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Originally Posted by AZ Erik
I'm thinking this was a shotgun technique of only kind of admitting that there are 'some' vin's affected. If enough people outside those vins yell, it'll get opened up. Look at most of the CALS or admitted expense recalls like Ford and the cruise control thing, Toyota and the dive by wire recalls etc... it'll expand. S&*^ thing is I have been looking at 02/03's and finally convinced my wife the TT would be a better idea (haha und a few more ponies to boot!)

I'm very interested in the outcome of this.


You could try to put another 56,000 miles on it real quick, I saw a lot of failures in the 60k mile range.
If Porsche is picking and choosing VINS, there is a reason. And the reason will be found in the discussions between the lawyers when the discovery materials were reviewed. There is very likely an interesting story behind all of this.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
Cefalu, I would be very happy if the records of discovery were made public - we'd finally get a better idea of what the truth is. I'm afraid that part of the settlement is that they will remain sealed. Certainly PCNA will want it that way.
If you are a class member, it's YOUR lawsuit. That is why I keep saying that if you are a class member you should assert your right to understand the basis of the claim by reviewing the discovery documents.

Only one way to do that. Ask.
Old 03-15-2013, 10:02 PM
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Leaky RMS's are not covered. You need to experience an actual IMSB failure, and pay to fix it.
Old 03-15-2013, 10:21 PM
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Hello all, I just bought a 2003 C4S with 58K miles, and now looking into buying an 02 Boxster S with 58K miles. I am trying to decipher whether my VIN is included in the list. Can someone please give me a hand and let me know whether my VIN falls in the range? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in Advance!

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Old 03-15-2013, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RaginBull
Hello all, I just bought a 2003 C4S with 58K miles, and now looking into buying an 02 Boxster S with 58K miles. I am trying to decipher whether my VIN is included in the list. Can someone please give me a hand and let me know whether my VIN falls in the range? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in Advance!

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Doesn't matter for you. Unless the 2003 has a failure this year. The 2002 is beyond the 10 year limitation.
Old 03-15-2013, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
Doesn't matter for you. Unless the 2003 has a failure this year. The 2002 is beyond the 10 year limitation.

I got that part, but I am assuming that supposedly if the VIN's are not in the range, I have a less likely chance of IMSB failure?
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Originally Posted by 69gaugeman
Doesn't matter for you. Unless the 2003 has a failure this year. The 2002 is beyond the 10 year limitation.
Not true. Assuming his IMSB had previously failed within 10 years of delivery and he had less than 130,000 miles at the failure, and his VIN was on the list, he's in.

People seem to be confused with the 10 year parameter. IMSB failures that occur within 10 years of the time of delivery are covered, it's not based on when the claim is made.
Old 03-15-2013, 11:24 PM
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Most here are only concerned with risk of a failure. The reality is the good news is really for those who have already had an IMS related failure and incurred cost. So if anyone wants to know why this is this is for 2001-2005, it is because in 2001 Porsche went from a double row bearing to a single row bearing.
Old 03-15-2013, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 10 GT3
Most here are only concerned with risk of a failure. The reality is the good news is really for those who have already had an IMS related failure and incurred cost. So if anyone wants to know why this is this is for 2001-2005, it is because in 2001 Porsche went from a double row bearing to a single row bearing.
...And in 2005 went to a larger single row bearing, leaving the 01-05's with the original single-rows as the weaker links of the 3 variations. Earlier and later cars have also failed, but apparently with reduced frequency compared to the middle years.
Old 03-15-2013, 11:37 PM
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Just to be clear in 2000 and 2001 some cars had the dual row and some had the single row bearing.
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Guys, read ALL the posts, there have been guys that fall within the VIN numbers listed that have had dual row IMS as well.

Also IMS can also weep. When this happens, dealerships generally replace the IMS flange only. This is merely a band aid IMO but I believe that is the proper protocol as they are not authorized to replace the IMS(unless performing an aftermarket retrofit).

When one of the above posters mentioned he had weeping IMS repaired twice, I'm fairly sure they only replaced the IMS flange only.
Old 03-16-2013, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Cefalu
If you are a class member, it's YOUR lawsuit. That is why I keep saying that if you are a class member you should assert your right to understand the basis of the claim by reviewing the discovery documents.

Only one way to do that. Ask.
^^^THIS x 996^^^

Cefalu, you have mentioned this point at least 3 times now. I sincerely hope someone here(who is a class member) takes this advice to heart, requests the discovery documents, and posts the info here so that more light can be shed on this IM$ bearing fiasco.


You can lead a horse to water...

I guess sometimes the horses would rather continue endlessly debating speculation and hearsay...


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