Nedster

Yes your car is among the VINs that are listed. Line 13. So is my 40th. I am still on the original IMS, at about 30k.

wknopf

Sounds like you and I are in the same boat. Thanks for the help deciphering the list of VINs. What are you going to do, just wait for the catastrophic engine failure or take pre-emptive action and replace with the aftermarket IMS? Does anyone on this board know the approximate installed price of the aftermarket IMS? Presumably a fraction of a replacement engine. Who makes the best one?

With a 10% chance this motor will blow on the highway at 85 mph, at midnight, out in some rural area, I am tempted to just go ahead and replace the IMS either at the dealer or an independent shop, all on my dime. I am pretty risk averse. Then again, I've only got six months of "class coverage" remaining anyway. Maybe the solution is "watchful waiting" and stay close to home this summer, particularly since as the original owner I have a potential 100% reimbursement if/when the motor fails!

Kimberly614

I can't say about post 2005 models, PAG did provide and improved IMS bearing as of 2006.

Bob Rouleau

Update,

The judgement has been approved. As soon as the final paperwork is ready, I'll post the full details as well as info on who to contact to file a claim.

Best,

KC-944 Turbo

I wonder why 2001+.... I have a 2000. No leaks that I can tell so far.

anywho

I suffered the dreaded IMS failure on my 2004, with the classic marbles-rattling-in-a-can sound and all the oil pouring out with no warning. The shop initially thought it was a rear main seal failure, but once they had a chance to inspect, they called the next day with the 'bad' news that it was the IMS failure, which caused metal to shoot into the engine.

I checked this site and found out about the class action. I checked my vin number, in-service date, mileage, and I bought Certified Pre-Owned, so I should be reimbursed 100% in the class action. I'm still bracing myself for having to pay for the engine replacement without getting reimbursed in the class action for whatever reason they dream up, although I should be covered, plus a couple hundred bucks for rental car.

To answer someone's question about the 'third party solution,' once the shop found me a replacement engine, I had them order the retrofit IMS because, to me, it is cheap insurance in the event this happens again. I believe they ordered it through LN Engineering (http://www.imsretrofit.com). I think it was $650 and since the engine was being replaced and the old one was already out, there really wasn't any additional labor cost. I think they said it is something that can be done when you replace your clutch (which I also needed since oil poured all over that), so if you need that, it might be a good time.

Having gone through this, and the unbelievable expense and inconvenience of having to get a whole new (used) engine, I would highly recommend getting the retrofit!!

10 GT3

2001-2005 had single roller bearings. -2000 cars had dual roller bearings. None of the dual roller bearing vehicles are included. Keep also in mind that even if it was included, there is no coverage at all if a failure happens over 10 years from the initial delivery date.

utkinpol

it does not matter what kind of a bearing is used in the IMS, as any bearing is submerged into oil so any bearing will eventually lose its grease and will fall apart.
It is an essential design flaw, so, why do they only cover 01-05 cars? It is really a big deal, in 06+ cars it is same damn design but they have removed an option to pull IMS assembly out so bearing replacement is a very expensive job there, it requires to drop down motor, etc. Anybody who knows this stuff says same thing - it is a design issue, even with LN Eng fix they say you got to do it every 30-40K miles as even their super expensive bearing is not immortal and is not guaranteed to survive long in those conditions.

It really sucks to be excluded from this as any MY 06-08 997.1 are essentially same cars with same motor but without an option to prevent this failure.

PS. but I got to say lawyers are awesome - to 'accept responsibility' for a car made in 2001 with a 10 year cap in the year 2013 is a neat trick.

Copple

I've tried to read though this thread and can't seem the answer I'm looking for. I have an 04 C2 996 that had an IMS failure aprox 6 months ago. Porsche ended up providing me with a remanufactured engine provided I pay to install. Am I eligible for reimbursement on the installation or does this just cover the engine?

Thanks, sorry if this has already been answered and I missed it.

mrtoro

confused just like most everyone else. i have a 2003 c4s with the VIN listed on the sourt document. In Service date is 7/2003 so it is within the 10 year service cut off. The car has not expericenced IMS failure (just like thousands of other m96 engines)

i am geting ready to replace the clutch since the car has about 60k on it. My dealer recommends doing RMS and IMS (LNE) in the meantime.

Does this court ruling help me with the cost of this service? I never recived a mailing, probably because i bought the car august of 2012.

Do i call porsche NA or ask the dealer service advisor to contact?

thank you

pfbz

From the proposed settlement:
So yes, the proposed settlement covers labor.

The bigger question is are you the original owner or certified pre-owned purchaser? Or did you purchase it used without an ACPO warranty?

The proposed reimbursement schedule:



As I read it, you should be eligible for 100% of your out-of-pocket cost (parts and/or labor) if you purchased CPO and had less than 100K miles.

If it was not CPO and you were not the original owner, a meager 25% reimbursement.

What's not clear (though it might be buried in the document somewhere) is how it will be handled if Porsche already picked up part of the repair expense...

My guess is that if Porsche picked up the engine and you picked up the labor (lets say $15K for engine and $5K for labor just to make the math easy), Porsche would claim they already have covered 75% of the cost, more than the 25% as a used purchaser you are entitled to, so you will get nothing additional. One might argue that the 'total repair cost' was whatever they charged you after the good-will contribution of the engine and you are due 25% of whatever your actual out of pocket was, but I doubt that is how it would be interpreted.

Bottom line: This settlement is primarily of benefit to those who:

1. Purchased a 996 as a CPO or original owner,
2. Had a IMS related failure, and
3. Repaired the IMS failure primarily at their own expense.

Any other set of circumstances and the reimbursement, if any, falls off dramatically.

pfbz

I'm no expert, just an owner that has read the documents.

There appears to be no proposed reimbursement for proactively installing a replacement or upgraded bearing, ONLY THE COST OF REPAIR AFTER FAILURE.

pfbz

Looks like this settlement is exactly tailored for someone in your circumstance.

But I'm a bit confused on who's doing the work... Dealer or independent?

Did you have it looked at by a Porsche dealer and they deny to cover the repair expense under the CPO warranty?

Copple

Thanks for your response, not the original owner but did buy it with the CPO.

So who do I contact to find out about reimbursement? PCNA, local dealer, or one of the lawyers representing the case?

H964

this is great news, where can you file a claim?