Thinking of taking my 996 for it's first DE event...
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So as I'm sure most want to know....KK.......why the hell did you buy a Porsche?
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look back at the conversation - who says what - we only say its fun, and it wont hurt the car - "someone" likes to say you'll regret it and come home in a puddle of oil on a flatbed calling Porsche AG asking who to file the law suit against
come on man - are you bi-polar
(I ask because we -- err I meant I is)
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I have a 951 with some VERY fun DE days on it. I just picked up a 996 and would like to take it to a track day.
Several times in this forum I have see 'it happened to me' threads. Someone goes to a track day and has engine problems soon there after. If memory serves me, the thread I am thinking of diagnosed the problem as oil starvation of the engine.
The track will be the new Kansas Speedway, high banks that the NASCAR guys run flat out on. I'm betting it will cause some serious G's on the long way around the banks.
Is there anything special I can do to prevent oil starvation, if indeed that is the problem?![Confused](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
THX!
Several times in this forum I have see 'it happened to me' threads. Someone goes to a track day and has engine problems soon there after. If memory serves me, the thread I am thinking of diagnosed the problem as oil starvation of the engine.
The track will be the new Kansas Speedway, high banks that the NASCAR guys run flat out on. I'm betting it will cause some serious G's on the long way around the banks.
Is there anything special I can do to prevent oil starvation, if indeed that is the problem?
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THX!
Wow, it's responses to threads like these that cause me not to want to check the 996 section when I view Rennlist. Buy a Pcar and then be afraid to drive it hard...Really???(BTW, this comment is not directed toward the OP.)
To the OP - I have personally tracked 996s and MANY others have as well without any issues. However, I'd be a bit leery about taking the 996 on a high banked oval track, not because of anything to do with the 996 but rather I'd be wary of tracking any high performance "street" car in such a way. Blowing out a rear tire(especially in a rear engined 911 on street tires) under the high G loads experienced on a high banked oval would concern me more than possible oil starvation issues.
As far as tracking the 996 on a road circuit, I say go for it. If you are still concerned with oil starvation simply stay on sreet rubber and add an X51 oil pan and/or an accusump system if it makes you feel better.
Don't pass up the chance to track your 996, I guarantee you'll have a blast.
P.S. - Congrats on the new 996...
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Mine is at 123k miles today. I drive it everyday, in fact I was thinking of starting a new thread to show how dirty my car is since I haven't had a chance to wash it in about a month. Somewhat of an anti-beauty thread. ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
It's so dirty that there is still some nose prints on the side window from when I had to take my dog to the vet the other day because the wife had the SUV at work.
I take it to the grocery store, home improvement stores, and to go cruising. Then about 3-4 times a year it gets beat up on the track. Even at 120k+ miles on the odometer it still pulls strong to 7000 RPM and laughs at me when I think I'm surpassing it's abilities on the track. Then another 6+ times a year it's avoiding the cones at the autocross track where once again the driver is the limiting factor in the amount of fun it can have.
When I first got into the Porsche experience my first 944 was a garage queen for a long time. But then when I relocated to the South I decided to only bring one car with me and it was the Porsche. My commute wasn't long I decided to make it the everyday car. Since then I wouldn't have it any other way with a "regular" production model Porsche. My commute is much longer now but it's still a treat to use the car every day. I couldn't imagine commuting in a boring car every single day. Sure I might get less than 20 MPG in town but who cares? Since it's not likely to become a collectors item why shouldn't I get the most I can out of it?
Sure it cleans up real nice as you can see in my avatar but if you get closer you see some paint chips and other items that would keep it from winning any beauty contests. They bother me at times but then I get the satisfaction of knowing I use my car in every way I can. And if something breaks? I replace it, in fact since I've started tracking I think my car is better maintained than if I drove it only every once in a while. After all a track inspection is pretty thorough and you can't play if your car is even suspected of being sick.
We all buy these cars for different reasons but if you really want to see what it's capable of doing...TRACK IT!
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It's so dirty that there is still some nose prints on the side window from when I had to take my dog to the vet the other day because the wife had the SUV at work.
I take it to the grocery store, home improvement stores, and to go cruising. Then about 3-4 times a year it gets beat up on the track. Even at 120k+ miles on the odometer it still pulls strong to 7000 RPM and laughs at me when I think I'm surpassing it's abilities on the track. Then another 6+ times a year it's avoiding the cones at the autocross track where once again the driver is the limiting factor in the amount of fun it can have.
When I first got into the Porsche experience my first 944 was a garage queen for a long time. But then when I relocated to the South I decided to only bring one car with me and it was the Porsche. My commute wasn't long I decided to make it the everyday car. Since then I wouldn't have it any other way with a "regular" production model Porsche. My commute is much longer now but it's still a treat to use the car every day. I couldn't imagine commuting in a boring car every single day. Sure I might get less than 20 MPG in town but who cares? Since it's not likely to become a collectors item why shouldn't I get the most I can out of it?
Sure it cleans up real nice as you can see in my avatar but if you get closer you see some paint chips and other items that would keep it from winning any beauty contests. They bother me at times but then I get the satisfaction of knowing I use my car in every way I can. And if something breaks? I replace it, in fact since I've started tracking I think my car is better maintained than if I drove it only every once in a while. After all a track inspection is pretty thorough and you can't play if your car is even suspected of being sick.
We all buy these cars for different reasons but if you really want to see what it's capable of doing...TRACK IT!
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I'm sure this video has been on this forum before, but it helps convince me that the Porsche engineers considered g-forces and oil starvation during development and testing. Pretty cool sound also!
YouTube: "2009 Porsche 911 Engine Oil Sump Test Rig"
YouTube: "2009 Porsche 911 Engine Oil Sump Test Rig"
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KC-944 - Talking to locals about the track, they have said that the layout should prove to be brutal to street cars. Between the long full throttle runs on the oval, to the heavy braking at the end of the oval, the brakes and tires will take a toll. And expect your temp gage to be leaning to the right. A third radiator and real oil cooler would be a must.
Heartland will wear out a set of tires and brakes on a weekend, and it is a slower track.
Looking forward to see the first runs.
Heartland will wear out a set of tires and brakes on a weekend, and it is a slower track.
Looking forward to see the first runs.
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KC, by all means I agree. Track it and please install a dashcam so others can enjoy the track experience. Keep at it and continue to best your personal times for each lap. Push the car to its limits and please post your findings. I cant wait to do the same. Thanks.
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I'm sure this video has been on this forum before, but it helps convince me that the Porsche engineers considered g-forces and oil starvation during development and testing. Pretty cool sound also!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv53RbvgfGc
YouTube: "2009 Porsche 911 Engine Oil Sump Test Rig"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv53RbvgfGc
YouTube: "2009 Porsche 911 Engine Oil Sump Test Rig"