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Old 12-12-2012, 10:26 AM
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White Out, What I meant was, your car is too nice and straight to trash as a stripped track car. Why not find a salvage/wrecked one for this project. There are many up for auction, including GT models.

Bordin you dont know what I was referring too. BTW, your not a paying member, do you even own a Porsche?
Old 12-12-2012, 10:30 AM
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no car is to nice to lighten

strip

and enjoy
Old 12-12-2012, 10:32 AM
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Yes panel can be removed. I assume the owner removed the sunroof and is replacing with a fixed panel.
Old 12-12-2012, 10:46 AM
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Love what you are doing, but wouldn't it be easier to just trade for a gt3?
Im glad Im not the only one who thinks this way. That ruined a TT. I dont get it. I have seen salvage GT's that could be made driveable for track use.
Old 12-12-2012, 10:55 AM
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Now this would make a good track car project. It only had 6500 miles on it. Supercheap.

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Old 12-12-2012, 12:00 PM
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Looking at the 996 diagram for the rear wing it looks like it uses a motor similar to a wiper or power window motor. So you should be able to remove the motor from the gearbox and pin the gear in place to stop it from lowering. You dont save as much weight as possible but the heavy motor is gone.
Old 12-12-2012, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KrazyK
White Out, What I meant was, your car is too nice and straight to trash as a stripped track car. Why not find a salvage/wrecked one for this project. There are many up for auction, including GT models.

Bordin you dont know what I was referring too. BTW, your not a paying member, do you even own a Porsche?
Why does it matter if he is a paying memeber or not? You are as abresive as they come. Write inults in one post and then backpedling in the next. It's his car, he can do as he pleases. I personally like the idea or reducing weight. Much cheaper than to add HP.
Old 12-12-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ivangene
what's with the roof panel ?

does that come off on coupes?
I think you can take out the header to get to the spot welds and then remove the whole thing including sunroof as one piece. He's said that he is replacing the roof with a carbon piece. Not sure if the car will remain street legal or not but I do know it's his track car as he is putting in a cage after so getting the weight out before hand helps when he puts the cage back in and this add's weight back in.

I think pulling weight out can become an addiction for some people but I get the reducing weight on a track car although a good friend of mine who is a pro racer once told be he could save people a lot of money on upgrades to their cars by giving them a days in car instruction to make them faster. I sort of agree with that as we see people come out for track days all the time in high end 'super cars' or mod'd up P cars and get passed by a guy in 2004 Honda Civic or well driven 944.
Old 12-12-2012, 04:27 PM
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Read this in an article from Excellence; "Removing 33 pounds of unsprung weight at the wheels is equal to losing 198 pounds from the body of the car". By the way, what's wrong with a little weight reduction in our Porsches whether you track it or not? It's the process that's enjoyable whether you are wrenching or modifying, that's what makes ownership of a 911 so much fun.
Old 12-12-2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by robrichtx
Don't worry about the naysayers White Out - do what you like with your car. It's yours and its appeal really only matters to you and the car's next owner.

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True, I don't think the next owner will give much thought about the rear wing being manual. The good part is, if he does, there are lots of options to swap the trunk for a different style.

Originally Posted by skiracer
Have you considered a fixed OEM wing? I'm not sure about the weight savings, but along w/ a front splitter it may provide additional downforce to improve handling at track speeds. I have this wing installed on my C4 cab...
I like the look of the retractable wing. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Originally Posted by KrazyK
White Out, What I meant was, your car is too nice and straight to trash as a stripped track car. Why not find a salvage/wrecked one for this project. There are many up for auction, including GT models.
Buy a wrecked car to preserve a sub $20k, 13 year old base 996? There is nothing special about an early 996 to prevent it from being modified.

Originally Posted by ivangene
no car is to nice to lighten

strip

and enjoy
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Originally Posted by bordin34
Looking at the 996 diagram for the rear wing it looks like it uses a motor similar to a wiper or power window motor. So you should be able to remove the motor from the gearbox and pin the gear in place to stop it from lowering. You dont save as much weight as possible but the heavy motor is gone.
Yeah, it uses a small electric motor that moves two rods (one to each side) outward and inward; which controls the wing height. With the motor removed, the rods are able to move freely (wing won't move on its own, but I feel that air pressure at speed will push the wing down). I'm trying to lock those rods in the up position.

I might just make a little bracket at the base of the plastic runners and prevent the cable from moving.
Old 12-12-2012, 07:23 PM
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Perhaps something like this would work? You attach the rods at each end of the bar. The bar pivots in the center and you lock it in place with the nut. That way you can still retain the function of raising and lowering the wing.
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That's awesome. Thank you
Old 12-12-2012, 07:32 PM
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The only problems I can think of are
- I dont own a 996
- because of this I dont know where it would be feasible to mount the stud needed for the nut to hold the bar.
Old 12-12-2012, 07:37 PM
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It's a little different set up than what you posted the diagram of, but I can make a bracket similar in design and allow for the wing to be adjusted.

Seriously, that little diagram was the 'light bulb' I needed.
Old 12-12-2012, 09:05 PM
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Imo000, because what I suspected was just confirmed. Thats why.

White Out, You sure have a clean 996 for you not to think its special. I suppose some have sentimental value and some have $ value. Didnt know the back story on yours, just thought it looked too nice to track. If you wanna get serious about track I would look into a damaged GT. Saves you a lot of work.


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