KrazyK

I hate to say it but that would really be ashame. It just wont be a Porsche anymore.

white out

why? because the engine would no longer be a pile of **** AND it would make power on par with 996T...

white out

Update on the rear wing:

I removed the cables which hold the wing up and used bolts to hold the wing in the up position. If the bolts are removed, the wing will slide down into the lowered position. This dropped a few pounds (3-5) from the trunk lid.

DreamCarrera

I read this entire thread and was actually in your corner up until the "pile of ****" comment...I do find it very funny that you may not know that many chebby LSs grenade...HAHA...Gooood luuuck!!!

white out

You can't seriously tell yourself that the LS1 has anywhere near the amount of mechanical failures as the 3.4 M96 in 100% stock form (IMS bearings, oval pistons, cracked cylinder heads, leaking spark plug boots, AOS failure, cracked blocks).

The 3.4M96 is a joke of an engine; in reliability and ability to make power.

KrazyK

White Out, your beginning to sound like your not a Porsche fan. Why the heck did you buy one?

white out

I'm definitely not the only Porsche fan who isn't a fan of the 3.4M96.

I bought it as a cheap daily driver and did the engine swap to make the car reliable, cheap maintenance, and add some power.

KrazyK

Just think what you could have done to a 3.4 for the same money. Jake R. engine for example. you dont think they can make the 3.4 Reliable? Now your gonna have a mismatched hybrid? What the ?????

Capt. Obvious

This LSX swap will cost about 1/4th of having the 3.4 built for power.

It's just a car.

white out

A mismatched hybrid, WTF is that?

You're off your rocker if you think that a 3.4 will ever be able to compete with an LS1. M96 is good for making coffee tables, not reliable power.

FYI, my car had a working M96 with new RMS, upgraded IMS bearing; Fabspeed exhaust; and Fabspeed intake.


This:



Looks better than this:

KrazyK

IMHO, an engine swap, hybrid conversion is more suited to an old Jeep or something. The second picture keeps the car a Porsche. Personally, I dont get it. why mess up a good car?

"Hybrid" is Renegades description. Not mine.


Even if your cost estimate was true (which its not), with the 3.4 it would still be a Porsche.

bordin34

You've probably seen this thread before since you are doing the conversion. If you haven't check it out it has some great info in it.
http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...onversion.html

white out

How does adding horsepower/torque and lowering reliability issues mess up a good car? I don't get it?

My total cost for the swap. . . How about you post up the cost of the 3.4 build, install, etc and I'll post up my costs.

I've spoken with him a few times regarding some aspects of the build.

KrazyK

I dont know if the Chevy is anymore reliable than a propery built 3.4 but like everyone said, its your car. JR is able to get "reliable power" out of an M96 engine.

Im sure yours will be unique because you dont see many. No offense by "Hybrid". Thats a Renegade term. Best of luck.

white out

Their business name is Renegade Hybrids, nowhere else does it call the car a hybrid. They do use the term "conversion" often though. Nowhere does it say "mismatched hybrid" as you referred to the swap. If it makes you feel better, we can refer to it as the bastard build. I'm cool with that.

Continuing to think that the M96 can ever be as reliable as an LS1 (or any small block LSx) is unrealistic.. The LSx is one of the most reliable engines in existence; where the M96 has a stigma worse than the Corvair.

As for power, the LS1 in my car will make around 320rwhp/340rwtq as it sits. If I went with a simple cam/valve spring/pushrod upgrade, 400whp isn't far away; longtube headers are $180 on eBay (another 20whp/tq). In case you're not good with math, that's about 70whp/150wtq over the M96 before mods. And all for less money than upgrading an IMS bearing if the M96 isn't blown up.