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Old 08-02-2012, 03:42 AM
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Default who pays for smog in CA for a sale of car?

Folks, quick question.

In CA, isn't the seller responsible for the smog when buying a used car?

So if you're buying a used car from a dealer, who's responsible for the smog fee? You or the dealer? I just took a quick look at a contract that was sent to me and there's a line item for smog. I thought it was the seller's responsibility...
Old 08-02-2012, 04:12 AM
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dmv says its the seller. in practice, that isnt always the case. when buying used from dealer, buyer always pay. factor that into your negotiation. remember, u r the customer
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Are you keeping the car in the state or taking it out of state? I don't think you have to pay the smog fee if the car is immediately taken out of state and not titled in CA. That's the way it used to be anyway...
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Seller...

DMV site says so.

I bought a 944 T that "should pass no problem, man".

It was a problem... man.
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Hmm, the car will be in state in CA.

I know for private party sales, it's the seller's responsibility. I was not aware that from a dealership is different as referenced by djantlive.

I'm actually kind of annoyed now. We agreed on the price, and I told them I didn't want to deal with any BS "fees" for this and that. It was price of the car, plus tax and DMV license fees. They apparently put on some "s/n etch" that's invisible to the naked eye on parts of the car since it's a "highline" car. Charging $289 for it. I told them I don't want it. But they did it already on the car. Now I see a line item for smog.

Document fee $80
Emissions Testing charge $37.25
Code Protection $289.00

Actually, now that I look at this "sales contract" that was sent to me, the line item for emissions testing reads like this: Emissions Testing Charge (not a government fee) $37.25

WTF!
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I believe that while the seller is responsible for the car passing smog, it can still charge for the testing/certification.

What it can't charge for is the cost of bringing the car into emissions compliance.

Sincerely,

Macster.
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37 is very reasonable. You should not pay for that etching since you didnt approve it. I would threaten not to buy the car to have the charge removed. They should absorb their own mistake.
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Originally Posted by yoda888
Hmm, the car will be in state in CA.

I know for private party sales, it's the seller's responsibility. I was not aware that from a dealership is different as referenced by djantlive.

I'm actually kind of annoyed now. We agreed on the price, and I told them I didn't want to deal with any BS "fees" for this and that. It was price of the car, plus tax and DMV license fees. They apparently put on some "s/n etch" that's invisible to the naked eye on parts of the car since it's a "highline" car. Charging $289 for it. I told them I don't want it. But they did it already on the car. Now I see a line item for smog.

Document fee $80
Emissions Testing charge $37.25
Code Protection $289.00

Actually, now that I look at this "sales contract" that was sent to me, the line item for emissions testing reads like this: Emissions Testing Charge (not a government fee) $37.25

WTF!
No problem. Just pay them with invisible dollars.
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really? I cant believe they actually have a law about it. I would think it would be negotiable.
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Originally Posted by Litesonic
Seller...

DMV site says so.

I bought a 944 T that "should pass no problem, man".

It was a problem... man.
I love this... man

"no problem.... man" will get you everytime
Old 08-03-2012, 09:46 AM
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I would thank them for the etching and decline to pay for it since you did not request nor authorize it to be done.
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I don't think the fee is mandated either way. It is just that the seller is responsible for making sure it passes. The fee is negotiable.
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Thanks for the link. But if you read the message/thread you would realize I was talking about buying from a dealer and not an individual person.


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