Me, the Machbx 911 C4, Judge Alex and the IMSB
06-23-2012, 12:07 PM
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This entire thread is confusing. If I understand correctly - machbx sued PCNA over the intermediate shaft bearing issue and ended up on a "television court" program? Is that correct? And from the sound of it, you won based on testimony from a Porsche expert witness? What did you win?
Or was this while thing sarcastic? I'm confused...
Or was this while thing sarcastic? I'm confused...
The thing I thought I would share is that this man has been an engineer for Porshe for 20 year - other german cars b4 that. When I was waiting for our cars to take us to airport, I finally got a chance to ask him about the whole ISMB debacle. Unrelated to why we were there. We talked about for a few minutes. I had heard here, and other forums, that PNA won't disclose they numbers of bad bearings and claim any stats on the IM
06-23-2012, 12:11 PM
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I was asked to settle my court case w a car salesman on a court tv show. Bc it was regarding my dual stage flywheel they asked an engineer from PNA to explain the "part" to the judge and how it failed. I did win. (not for being stupid, tho was, stupid).
The thing I thought I would share is that this man has been an engineer for Porshe for 20 year - other german cars b4 that. When I was waiting for our cars to take us to airport, I finally got a chance to ask him about the whole ISMB debacle. Unrelated to why we were there. We talked about for a few minutes. I had heard here, and other forums, that PNA won't disclose they numbers of bad bearings and claim any stats on the IM
The thing I thought I would share is that this man has been an engineer for Porshe for 20 year - other german cars b4 that. When I was waiting for our cars to take us to airport, I finally got a chance to ask him about the whole ISMB debacle. Unrelated to why we were there. We talked about for a few minutes. I had heard here, and other forums, that PNA won't disclose they numbers of bad bearings and claim any stats on the IM
06-23-2012, 01:17 PM
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Is it really this difficult to speak/explain in one post....in clear English what the whole post is about!!!!
This is painful, like pulling teeth!
Pete
This is painful, like pulling teeth!
Pete
06-23-2012, 01:48 PM
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06-23-2012, 01:55 PM
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06-23-2012, 02:05 PM
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Bc of my cute little 911 - I got to be on Judge Alex - and got to talk to a real, expert Porsche tech who was my expert witness from LA. After the show - I wanted to ask just one question - "What did he think about the IMSB issue w the 996 & 986?" He said is a known issue. Replace it. So we can a all quit wondering now. {you're welcome}
So, are taking your $3500 payment and putting it back in the car with a replacement bearing....:-)
06-23-2012, 02:22 PM
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Yes, seemed clear enough from start. Go on TV legal show, Porsche expert testifies re another issue, you get him to the side later and he weighs in on "the issue". Thanks, interesting story.
06-23-2012, 02:49 PM
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06-23-2012, 02:50 PM
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06-23-2012, 02:59 PM
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I understand it now. I simply have never heard of Judge Alex. I didn't know that was a television program, and once I realized that, I thought that machbx was involved in litigation specifically relating to the IMSB. I also thought it might be a fabricated story for ****s and giggles, but I see now that it wasn't!
As mentioned above, the early 997s use the M96 engine, and the IMSB wasn't really removed until 2009. One of the issues, however, is that there really isn't a "fix" for this issue. I agree that it's a good idea to replace the bearing, particularly with a newer ceramic design like the one from LN Engineering. However, those bearings can fail (and have) too. It's not an absolute fix. This issue is related to the design of the engine more than it is to a simple failure of a part. Will the new ceramic bearing design give you 100,000 more miles? 200,000? Hard to say...
As mentioned above, the early 997s use the M96 engine, and the IMSB wasn't really removed until 2009. One of the issues, however, is that there really isn't a "fix" for this issue. I agree that it's a good idea to replace the bearing, particularly with a newer ceramic design like the one from LN Engineering. However, those bearings can fail (and have) too. It's not an absolute fix. This issue is related to the design of the engine more than it is to a simple failure of a part. Will the new ceramic bearing design give you 100,000 more miles? 200,000? Hard to say...
06-23-2012, 03:08 PM
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I understand it now. I simply have never heard of Judge Alex. I didn't know that was a television program, and once I realized that, I thought that machbx was involved in litigation specifically relating to the IMSB. I also thought it might be a fabricated story for ****s and giggles, but I see now that it wasn't!
As mentioned above, the early 997s use the M96 engine, and the IMSB wasn't really removed until 2009. One of the issues, however, is that there really isn't a "fix" for this issue. I agree that it's a good idea to replace the bearing, particularly with a newer ceramic design like the one from LN Engineering. However, those bearings can fail (and have) too. It's not an absolute fix. This issue is related to the design of the engine more than it is to a simple failure of a part. Will the new ceramic bearing design give you 100,000 more miles? 200,000? Hard to say...
As mentioned above, the early 997s use the M96 engine, and the IMSB wasn't really removed until 2009. One of the issues, however, is that there really isn't a "fix" for this issue. I agree that it's a good idea to replace the bearing, particularly with a newer ceramic design like the one from LN Engineering. However, those bearings can fail (and have) too. It's not an absolute fix. This issue is related to the design of the engine more than it is to a simple failure of a part. Will the new ceramic bearing design give you 100,000 more miles? 200,000? Hard to say...
06-23-2012, 03:18 PM
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