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Old 03-09-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pdxmotorhead
Portland international,, come out of turn 12 in a turbo and punch it,, you'll hit the left hand rail,, then the right hand guard rail after the right hand turn backwards.. The AWD cars don't do that..
You know what else doesn't do that? Cars driven by people whose brains understand how traction and the throttle need to be modulated. LOL

You do realize the rebuild cost on these is basically 15 to 20K??? It can be done cheaper.. if your good and can DIY and do the research..
The turbo kit listed above claims it only puts 4.5 psi into the motor. That seems pretty mild. So far I haven't come across any threads about anyone doing forced induction on an M96, much less blowing up one of them.

What family sedans do 170+ Stock ?? and sub 5 seconds 0-60,, That cost less than about $80K I'm trying to think of one.. I'm not really in the modern car loop these days..
Note I'm just chatting here,, its all a philosophical debate.. If ya like the idea go for it and please post up the videos, it oughta be impressive..
In the ~$50K range, here are a few: Kia Stinger GT. Audi S4. Audi RS3. Charger SRT8. Not that a family sedan is the benchmark against which the 911 should be compared, just saying that the bar is continuously being raised as far as straight-line performance goes.

Anyway, this isn't something serious at this point. I just came across someone selling a never-installed turbo kit for a good bit less than retail, and figured it might be fun to do. (Haven't gotten a reply from the supposed seller, though.) Although, first thing's first.. I need to get anything else that's amiss sorted out before considering jumping into the deep end of the pool.
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I would stop and think long and hard before taking an engine with the M96’s reputation and taking it from a normally aspirated configuration and adding an aftermarket blower or turbo……………. There are many reasons Porsche developed and entirely different engine to run with a turbo………..all of which you are likely to discover if you go this route
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Old 03-09-2020, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thefleshrocket
...That seems pretty mild. So far I haven't come across any threads about anyone doing forced induction on an M96, much less blowing up one of them.
I ran VF Engineering's supercharger kit for 5 years (2013-2018) and approx. 3000 miles. DIY Install Boost was capped at 5.5 psi. No problems until my AOS failed and car ran lean. After that I heard a knock and decided to do a DIY elective rebuild from 3.4 to 3.8L. I was expecting to see bore scoring, but after tearing everything down, the only culprit I could attribute it to was worn rod bearings. I'm not an expert, and I haven't posted photos online of the disassembly yet, but maybe there was more to it. For anyone that wants to add a SC to their setup, DM me, as mine is up for sale. (I need to pay for those LN Nickies, Carillo Rods, JE Pistons, IMS Solution, Hoffman Heads!)

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Old 03-10-2020, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister Quickie
With 315 hp being non competitive on the street at this point I've been taking a serious look into this:
http://www.tpcracing.com/products/TP...CT-Conversion/

a) has anyone had experiences with after-market turbo on a 996 and if so, good/bad?
b) what's the difference between a supercharger kit and a turbo kit?
c) would either kit in b) above be too stressful for my engine causing it to prematurely fail or can the engine handle the extra boost?

520 hp ...

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So you claim 77 hp gain with all the mods installed? Seems very optimistic to be honest. I'd say that up to 30 with all listed mods would fair.
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TPC did the install on my 2000 millenium edition 996 almost 12 years ago and 20.000 km with no problem. I don't track my car so i don't know full potential on race track
but its blast to drive on street . I think it's worth every penny i spend on turbo.
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:23 PM
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I forget to tell you Guys TPC did the dayno it was 420 hp at the wheel,
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Originally Posted by AlexKislov
So you claim 77 hp gain with all the mods installed? Seems very optimistic to be honest. I'd say that up to 30 with all listed mods would fair.
Was this in reference to my post? If so, nope. That is referred to as "stacking" horsepower. I would have to agree with you, these bolt on's would add around 30-33 whp!

Old 03-12-2020, 12:35 AM
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Apparently forced induction on NA 996s is less uncommon than I thought. There's a FB group about it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/supe...ef=group_cover

The supercharger kit is $9K and should be good for low 400s at the wheels on a 3.6. https://vfengineering.com/products/s...11-carrera-996

I am thinking very strongly about doing that kit once I've got the car paid off.
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Originally Posted by Capt. Obvious
Thank you for the life lesson, 8 years later.
This is a REALLY old topic, but I have a 997.1 with the VF supercharger, and it rips. It's currently undergoing some drivability issues, but unrelated to the supercharger. Also you know you still pull at lights if the time is right, 8 years later or not.
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I made 385 at the wheels on a dynojet dyno with a 3.8, so I think VFs' numbers are probably a little high even though they're using engine dyno numbers. Mine might benefit from some tweaking of the tune, but I don't think there's 50 more horse in there, at least not at 6lb. Additionally I have the full Fabspeed exhaust with 200 cell cats and headers. No other power adders or mods to the engine.



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