Notices
996 Forum 1999-2005
Sponsored by:

Water pump impelller at 53K

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-17-2012, 03:48 PM
  #1  
j-mann
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
j-mann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Water pump impelller at 53K

Yesterday I replaced my water pump at 53K. There were no broken fins but when I took a pair of pliers to the impeller, the fins just broke off with barely ANY effort. My heart jumped a little knowing how close I came to having them buried in my engines coolant passages.
Old 04-17-2012, 04:08 PM
  #2  
Macster
Race Director
 
Macster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Centerton, AR
Posts: 19,034
Likes: 0
Received 254 Likes on 224 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by j-mann
Yesterday I replaced my water pump at 53K. There were no broken fins but when I took a pair of pliers to the impeller, the fins just broke off with barely ANY effort. My heart jumped a little knowing how close I came to having them buried in my engines coolant passages.
You didn't come anywhere near close to having them come off in the engine. The odds of you just picking the time to replace the water pump just before the blades were due to fail is astronomical.

The blades move gallons of hot (I've seen sustained coolant temps of 226F) coolant per minute of engine run time. They speed up and slow down in sync with engine rpms. They are tough.

They can fail from two causes: One is the coolant system has a pressure leak and without pressure the water pump blades experience cavitation which can be very damaging to blades to the point the cavitation causes mechanical failure of the blade; Two is the water pump gets some play and the noise (admittedly subtle at first) is ignored -- every so often someone posts about a suspected water pump noise and wants to know how long he can continue to drive the car -- and the play increases to the point the blade edges come in contact with the engine water pump cavity. The blade edges run very close (for efficiency's sake) to the surface of the water pump cavity in the engine block and there's not much room for a wobbly water pump impeller to wobble.

Sincerely,

Macster.
Old 04-17-2012, 04:31 PM
  #3  
j-mann
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
j-mann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=Macster;9453024]You didn't come anywhere near close to having them come off in the engine.

What a relief.
Old 04-17-2012, 06:34 PM
  #4  
targa996
Pro
 
targa996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Silicon Valley
Posts: 737
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Just out of interest - why did you decide to replace WP ? And what did it cost ? (dealer or indie or self ?)
Old 04-17-2012, 07:26 PM
  #5  
j-mann
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
j-mann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I replaced it as a preventative maintenance item - and I'm really glad I did. I did the work myself.
Old 04-17-2012, 09:45 PM
  #6  
aviography
Drifting
 
aviography's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oakville, Canada
Posts: 2,414
Received 11 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

OP,

Did you use the 996 pump or 997 pump?

BTW, isn't it nice to have an unique factory color?
Old 04-17-2012, 09:57 PM
  #7  
Dharn55
Drifting
 
Dharn55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Glenview, IL
Posts: 2,528
Received 174 Likes on 107 Posts
Default

There is some conjecture that non-OEM coolant will soften and damage the plastic of the impeller along with other "European" plastics, but I have never seen any real proof and/or documentation of this and don't really buy it.
Old 04-17-2012, 10:14 PM
  #8  
j-mann
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
j-mann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

THE 997 PUMP? Why am I just NOW hearing about this? Seriously - educate me.
Old 04-17-2012, 10:23 PM
  #9  
j-mann
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
j-mann's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by aviography
OP,

BTW, isn't it nice to have an unique factory color?
I love the viola - post more pics
Old 04-18-2012, 12:00 PM
  #10  
dennis hiip
Rennlist Member
 
dennis hiip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

CAUTION!!!I recently changed my WP (MY 2003) and was sent a 997 WP from Sunset (supposed to be replacement for the 996) However the impeller was slightly lager in diameter (aprox 4mm) and would not spin freely inside of the housing. Had I not checked the rotation before starting the car it would have been a bad scene.
Old 04-18-2012, 06:49 PM
  #11  
street rod
Drifting
 
street rod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: DFW
Posts: 2,288
Received 265 Likes on 180 Posts
Default

997 wp installed in my car with no issues.
Old 04-18-2012, 07:17 PM
  #12  
dennis hiip
Rennlist Member
 
dennis hiip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 248
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yes, Ive read where it's now common practice to use the 997 WP in place of the 996 WP. On mine, we measured the impeller and it was 4mm larger in diameter. When I called Sunset Porsche and told then, I was put on hold while they rechecked and they came back to apologize. They replaced and paid for return postage. So, I don't know what's up with that, but I would measure the impeller prior to install.
Old 04-18-2012, 07:35 PM
  #13  
Flat6 Innovations
Former Vendor
 
Flat6 Innovations's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cleveland Georgia
Posts: 6,968
Received 2,293 Likes on 903 Posts
Default

Look for a water pump tech article in Excellence in a couple of months.. They just interviewed me on the topic yesterday.



Quick Reply: Water pump impelller at 53K



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:57 AM.