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Old 07-30-2011, 04:48 PM
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some of the newbies around here just dont take the oportunity to slam the little guy

I left that wide open several times......
(leave it to Tim, he needs all the confidence he can get making fun of my little "car" )
Old 07-30-2011, 08:43 PM
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Ivangene, Compare a 996 Cab to a new Camaro Convertible... 3200 lbs vs 4200 lbs. So which one is a Sports Car and which is a Sporty 2 door Sedan? Everything gets bigger as the years go by (well almost everything). The 996 was lighter than the 993, but now we are getting "fatter" again.
I agree the 997 looks bigger and I think part of it is the visual shape - in particular the front & rear bumpers. The 997 and even latter Mk II C2 & C4's have shapes that make for a bulkier look (which some folks like). And from what I have read about the "998?" or what ever they call it - it will grow by several inches in wheelbase and perhaps elsewhere.
I still think the Mk I 996's simple shape looks more like the original "Long Hood" 991 than any later series.
Old 07-30-2011, 10:02 PM
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true Jack..I am just having fun....the Challenger/Estate Wagon had me laughing all day.....

I forgot what this thread was about anyhow cuz I am happy my car drives again!
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Old 07-30-2011, 10:46 PM
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I agree - there's not that much difference between the 996 and the 997 - they are very similar. Much greater differences between say, a 996 and a 993. All good cars, but you can get a 996 for an incredible deal - there even a few 996 C2s here in Calgary, Canada for around $20K - and you just can't go wrong with this much car for the money.
Old 07-31-2011, 08:56 AM
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I have heard that the new 2012 will be designated as 991. And to back up the observation of cars getting bigger, here is what I found on the 991.

The car has grown 2.2 inches in length and 4.0 inches at the wheelbase, but the front and rear overhangs are shorter, 1.3 and 0.5 inches respectively. The car’s roofline is also lower by 0.5 inches.
Old 07-31-2011, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ivangene
Challenger V6 3,720lbs V8 4,132lbs WB 116 L 197.7 W 75.7
Mustang V6 3,453lbs V8 3,605lbs WB 107 L 188 W 73.9
Camaro V6 3,780lbs V8 3,849lbs WB 112 L 190 W 75.5

1995 Buick roadmaster station wagon - LOL!!
V8 4546 lbs...but check the size - WB 101.4 hahaha its 15" shorter wheelbase than the Challenger!! Length 168.8 a whopping 29" shorter!! and W 70.5 (5 inches narrower)

this is funny as hell and has nothing to do with this thread but WOW!!! i am shocked that the "new muscle car" is SOOOO much bigger than the huge pig station wagon (specs are the Estate wagon)




links
http://www.edmunds.com/buick/roadmas...html?style=368
http://www.edmunds.com/dodge/challen...=coupe&ps=used
I think the edmunds specs were NOT accurate, judging by what is here for the Buick:

http://www.cars.com/buick/roadmaster...pecifications/

Design and Dimensions
215.8 " exterior length
78.1 " exterior body width
55.9 " exterior height
116 " wheelbase



back on topic, the 996 is a tremendously good, used car value.
Old 08-01-2011, 03:56 PM
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Conclusion: size does matter......
Old 08-01-2011, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ivangene
I have been more and more SIZE aware and the 996 is much smaller than the 997...the farther back you go the smaller the cars get - its not just Porsche, I see it everywhere

the other day I was looking at a Volvo 240 wagon..a ficking WAGON and it was TINY compared to even the Mini Cooper...seriously, looked TINY! - and this week I was following one of those new ugly Dodge Charger/Challenger whatever ugly *** cars (OMG they could not have made that thing any uglier from the rear ehh??) and next to it was a mid 90's Buick Roadmaster station wagon (I know right how many of those are left on the highway) and ....you guessed it, the roadmaster was smaller looking....I swear it! I stared back and forth in shock and though MY GAWD look how big that stupid Dodge is..... but the more I compare older cars to new ones the more I realize (just like your supersized soda and french fries) we are being fed more crap than we asked for, wanted, or need....gotta go wash my suburban...later!
I parked near a newer Corolla the other day and was surprised at how big that little car has become. Many people want to blame the weight on safety features, but most it has come from the fact that each new design is bigger, and, thus almost always heavier, especially for mainstream autos.
Old 08-01-2011, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by francars
Give it another 10 more years and the 997s will be in the 20s too! Wonder where 996s prices will go to.
You won't have to wait 10 years! Early 997s are already readily available in the 30s. It won't be long before they drop into the 20s.



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