RMS or nearly ripped off?
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My 99 996 with 39,000 miles had a very slight oil leak so I took it to the dealer, who after about ten minutes, told me I needed my RMS replaced at a cost of about $1,400. This same dealer had replaced my RMS about four years ago at 34,000 miles. I told the dealer I couldn't do the work that day but would bring the car in a week or so later. My concern is that since that day I have not had any oil leak so I decided to wait it out. Its now three weeks later and still no leaks! I am going to get a second opinion at an independent shop, but I just wondered if any of you had some advice for me?
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1. An RMS change for $1400 at a dealer sounds too good to be true.
2. It is difficult to make an asymptomatic patient any better.
3. Try the 996 forum.
2. It is difficult to make an asymptomatic patient any better.
3. Try the 996 forum.
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My 99 996 with 39,000 miles had a very slight oil leak so I took it to the dealer, who after about ten minutes, told me I needed my RMS replaced at a cost of about $1,400. This same dealer had replaced my RMS about four years ago at 34,000 miles. I told the dealer I couldn't do the work that day but would bring the car in a week or so later. My concern is that since that day I have not had any oil leak so I decided to wait it out. Its now three weeks later and still no leaks! I am going to get a second opinion at an independent shop, but I just wondered if any of you had some advice for me?
If you're now no longer seeing a leak though, (and assuming there's oil in the car)
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My 99 996 with 39,000 miles had a very slight oil leak so I took it to the dealer, who after about ten minutes, told me I needed my RMS replaced at a cost of about $1,400. This same dealer had replaced my RMS about four years ago at 34,000 miles. I told the dealer I couldn't do the work that day but would bring the car in a week or so later. My concern is that since that day I have not had any oil leak so I decided to wait it out. Its now three weeks later and still no leaks! I am going to get a second opinion at an independent shop, but I just wondered if any of you had some advice for me?
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Could also be the IMS leaking and not the RMS. Many will mistake one for the other, and you won't know which one it is until you pull the transaxle out. If the dealer cleaned up the area during the inspection, it might take a while to pool again and drip off enough to see again. Keep driving it and keep your eye on the leak.
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I have had the RMS replaced twice on my 2003 cab under warranty. The first @ ~ 31,000 and 2nd @ ~ 33,000 both times were after the car had been stored for some months.
I was there watching the second time, when latest improved seal was installed in 2008. That seal did not have a spring around the seal lip. I questioned that as it was the first time I had ever seen that type of seal IE: pressed in shaft seal without a spring around the lip?? Evidently at that time Porsche felt that with the slight vacuum created in the crankcase while running the seal was sufficient as designed.
I have found that when the car is stored/lightly driven in the winter the seal will leak just enough to show wet or even a drop hanging at the bottom of the engine-transmission joint. I never see any on the floor under the car. I attribute that to the seal getting a little hard and allowing oil to seep past while not being run.
As soon as I start to drive in the spring the seepage stops and I don't see any signs of leakage until after it sits for a few weeks again. I have come to accept it as a quirk of my 996. I do keep an eye on things but I won't change it unless it starts to drool on the floor or it is time for a clutch/IMSB change.
I was there watching the second time, when latest improved seal was installed in 2008. That seal did not have a spring around the seal lip. I questioned that as it was the first time I had ever seen that type of seal IE: pressed in shaft seal without a spring around the lip?? Evidently at that time Porsche felt that with the slight vacuum created in the crankcase while running the seal was sufficient as designed.
I have found that when the car is stored/lightly driven in the winter the seal will leak just enough to show wet or even a drop hanging at the bottom of the engine-transmission joint. I never see any on the floor under the car. I attribute that to the seal getting a little hard and allowing oil to seep past while not being run.
As soon as I start to drive in the spring the seepage stops and I don't see any signs of leakage until after it sits for a few weeks again. I have come to accept it as a quirk of my 996. I do keep an eye on things but I won't change it unless it starts to drool on the floor or it is time for a clutch/IMSB change.
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Could also be the IMS leaking and not the RMS. Many will mistake one for the other, and you won't know which one it is until you pull the transaxle out. If the dealer cleaned up the area during the inspection, it might take a while to pool again and drip off enough to see again. Keep driving it and keep your eye on the leak.
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For what its worth, I had a PPI done on a car that I eventually ended up purchasing and during the PPI, they stated that the RMS wsa leaking but very little but that they couldn't be 100% sure that it was the RMS as it might have been the IMS. The prior owner had the RMS replaced about 2 years earlier but needless to say, with all the concerns regarding IMS, i decided not to take a chance and when i had the clutch replaced, they took care of the IMS, which is what was actually leaking and not the RMS. Also, the leak was so small that i never had any oil on the floor in my garage.
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When you risk slipping and falling in the oil on your garage floor, it's time to get'er done.
Wife's Boxster shed a couple of oil drops either five or six years ago, a couple of drops of coolant years ago as well. I wiped them up. Been dry on both accounts for years now without intervention or repair.
I fix this stuff for a living, BTW.
Wife's Boxster shed a couple of oil drops either five or six years ago, a couple of drops of coolant years ago as well. I wiped them up. Been dry on both accounts for years now without intervention or repair.
I fix this stuff for a living, BTW.