juankimalo

That's the real truth

You hit on the nail.
If only one of the kits that were sold for the different manufacturers suffered a fail, their prestige would fall down, and loose all that they did.
So, besides they developed a very useful thing, they are asumming a high risk.



I'm sure that if is was mounted correctly, just forget it, and enjoy the car.

mikefocke

I think part of the problem some have is a function of language and culture. In the US, we have the culture of "prove it" and you don't get far with assertions of "this is the best" without someone asking for proof. juankimalo, your postings are full of theory and adjectives but I'm looking for detail that I can understand and a history of successful performance in a supplier.

If I were considering this product, I'd sure as heck ask the following questions...

How many cars has this part been installed on? For what period of time? How many miles on the most used? What were the results of its last oil test?

Exactly what were the model years and transmission types of the cars the part has been installed on?

What was the condition of the IMS that was removed from the cars where the parts were installed?

How many HP do you lose by having to spin that extra mass? Show the dyno results before and after.

What entity within my legal system will stand behind the product and pay if there is a future problem? What is their financial strength?

Exactly what is in the kit and what other tools are required for the installation?

Is there a shop in my area that has experience installing this product?

What support do you provide the installer in the local language?

You are asking someone to pay at least 3x the cost of another product that has hundreds of installations and several years of exposure to the real world on the basis of assertions. Your price is around one third the price of a used replacement engine. I like the theory. Now prove with detail that it works and will work for me and that it is worth 3x to 8x the price of competing products.

If I have read Jake/Charles right, it took hundreds of installations before they had all of the variations in removal tools and procedures and in installation and product before they could say this product will work for you. Now I'm hearing you may have installed it on a few cars...how do I know my car is one of the variants it will work on?

Good luck with your product. I applaud the novel idea and am glad there may be another product to consider.

You think I'm being tough on you, you should have been listening as I queried Jake and Charles and Ed over months about their product.

Torontoworker

I see that there is also a 4th bearing for sale by the Autofarm firm in the UK. 1700 pounds... That better include install! If not it's crazy pricing like this that sucks the life out of 996/986 used car values.

Brucechas

If you read the website it is NOT a 4th bearing. It is the LN/Raby unit.

Jake Raby

ABSOLUTELY!

So did everyone else and they still do! Over time it has gotten better, the installations and pleased retrofit owners have certainly helped as well.

Remember fellas, what we ALL are doing isn't supposed to happen.. according to the MFR the dual row IMS bearing is non serviceable from the factory and still today Porsche service writers maintain that the bearing CANNOT be extracted from a dual row outfitted IMS.

Jake Raby

Yep!

Torontoworker

My bad. Although in my defense they make it *seem* like it's their idea and part.

Jake Raby

Thats the work of an ad agency..

juankimalo

Hello Mike:


I think you are right asking this questions. I'll probably do the same before moving a single finger. So, the only thing I could do is email the manufacturer (Rober) and show him your doubts to be answered. I'll do that.
Nevertheless, if someone needs info, here is the manufacturer's email: info@insaro.com
What I want to say that It's not mine, not my product, and not my business, but as i was the poster, i'll send this questions to him.

ATL Fahrer

To that point, I would be interested in knowing the benchmarking procedure as well, especially if I'm going to do the install on a ~US$20,000 engine -
have you pulled the retrofit out of the engine and examined after 1000, 2000, 5000km? What are the results of those tests, etc...?

mikefocke

as to the quality of the product and its fitness for use, you have become the face of the product. And since you have done this in multiple online forums, you are in my mind advertising for them so I associate you with the product as you seem to be acting as their spokesperson.

ivangene

WTF is this then
https://rennlist.com/forums/7666157-post24.html

JEEZ... ya know maybe the market wasnt created by Jake Raaby... maybe the market was created by a problem that no one was addressing

and FWIW most people who drive these cars DONT go on forums, I see plenty of IMS failures PLENTY !!!!

I hate to break it to you pal but the problem is plenty real for those it happens to..

<rant off>

juankimalo

You can think whatever you want. I told all of you in a Very clear way who is the manufacturer and who I am.
Do you think that I'm associated with LN/Raby too? You might!!!
Because I advertised their kits in Soloporsche making free publicity, translating articles and trying to help the rest of Soloporsche users in knowing the product.And here too. All of this WITH NO ECONOMIC INTEREST. The same as Rober's kit. I told him that I were going to help him and trying to share info in the english forums I freccuent.

So you can post whatever you want. I'm not going to repeat it more times 'cause I don't have to give more explanations to anyone who is looking for the dark side of this thing.
I consider very interesting these kind of threads but if you are going to imagine a conspiracy at this point I have nothing to add.

ivangene

here are pics of a that bearing.... looks great

Jake Raby

Where is Rover??