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Old 08-25-2011, 10:44 AM
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Question brake shim question

I'm in the middle of a rotor/pad job, and I need a bit of help...

1. First of all, big thanks to Van for some terrific videos. You made my life much easier, especially the bit with the parking brake adjustment.

2. There were shims installed (adhered) to the old pads. I have cleaned them and they are in good shape. What do I use to adhere them to my new pads?

3. I will be bleeding/flushing the brake fluid. I assume I should bleed the clutch as well? I read the DIY over at Renntech, but I'm not clear on the bleed order with respect to the clutch.

4. Thanks also to Gota911 and others who contributed to the painted caliper thread. My calipers were pretty beat up, now they are looking much better.
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Old 08-25-2011, 12:23 PM
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I am unsure about your first question but read some have used "Quiet Brake" (?) or something like that.

Regarding question two, I bled my entire brake system first and then did the clutch line last.

I just ordered my front rotors and pads and will do my this weekend too.
Old 08-25-2011, 01:03 PM
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I'm not positive, but I think the shims go on dry. I bet they just stuck to the paint on the back of the pads.

Yes, bleed the clutch when you're done with everything else. It's a little hard to ready - use a piece of tubing over the bleeder so you don't make a mess. I believe it's a smaller wrench, too (maybe 7mm or 8mm?).

Calipers look great!
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Originally Posted by Van
I'm not positive, but I think the shims go on dry. I bet they just stuck to the paint on the back of the pads...
There was definately some sort of adhesive on the shims. Maybe 1mm thick black gooey stuff. Or at least it turned gooey when I sprayed it with brake cleaner. Even before the brake cleaner, I had to use a putty knife in between the back of the brake pad and the shim.
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As a matter of course, i use a putty knife to separate the shims from the pad. They never go completely dry, and can always be pried apart.
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As everyone has said, this is a great video. Thanks.

For the phillips head retaining screws, would soaking them with WD-40 or PB Blaster be of any value?
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For the phillips head retaining screws, would soaking them with WD-40 or PB Blaster be of any value?
Perhaps... but for the few bucks to use a Harbor Freight impact screw driver, I wouldn't bother.
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I'm still not clear on what to use between the back of the brake pads and the shims. I know some people choose to run without the shims, but since I have them, and they are in good shape, I prefer to use them.

There definately *was* some sort of adhesive in there. Now that I've cleaned the old adhesive off, what should I use? Hopefully something I can pick up at my local auto parts store.

Thanks!
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I bet something like silicone would be good.
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Originally Posted by Van
Perhaps... but for the few bucks to use a Harbor Freight impact screw driver, I wouldn't bother.
Van, I was thinking about this as a way to help prevent having to drill them out. Or maybe I should watch the video before I ask the question?
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wow didnt know you could remove the pads without removing the calipers bolts..

im anxious to install my pagid yellow for my next track event

removing the shims, what does it do,,not sure to understand...
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The shims are just for added dampening to reduce noise. Some believe that you can add Ti shims to incease heat transfer (really a waste of money). With many of the Race pads the shims take up to much space and can result in extra drag on the rotor... and other issues if they do not have enough room to release.

Van... Great video's as always... Might I use this as part of the monthly Video Tech for the local club's website? Its about time to swap out your caliper rebuild video.

Keep in mind that currently Zimmermann is not the OEM supplier for the modern car rotors... Sebro is that source... We stock Sebro for all modern P-cars as well as the 944's.
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Originally Posted by Hal
Van, I was thinking about this as a way to help prevent having to drill them out. Or maybe I should watch the video before I ask the question?
Watch the vid 1st......the impact screw driver is the ticket. I never knew there was such a thing until I saw Van's vid. This really is a easy and fulfilling job.
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Those impact drivers are (and have been) a part of my toolbox sense my dad first handed me one as a kid (to work on my Motorcross bike to take the primary cover off).... A MUST have for anyone.
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Hello Van

The videos are fantastic .

Cannot say thank you enough


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