HELP!!!! Foil in the oil filler tube
#16
The Penguin King
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Seems like you might be able suction it out with a fluid extractor if it is still in the filler tube, which is what I suspect.
One of these (or one like it, Griots is no doubt on the expensive side)
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...d+extractor.do
One of these (or one like it, Griots is no doubt on the expensive side)
http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/...d+extractor.do
#17
So what happened?
Hey Bossman -
I know this is an old thread but I was curious to know what the outcome / resolution to this situation was?
I may have done the same thing.
Please, send me a PM or post a reply.
Thanks!!
I know this is an old thread but I was curious to know what the outcome / resolution to this situation was?
I may have done the same thing.
Please, send me a PM or post a reply.
Thanks!!
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Here's what I would do, since you're going to have to start by draining the oil anyway, drain the oil and see if it comes out. If not, stick your finger in the sump hole and see if you can feel it...it might make it's way to the lowest part of the sump when you drain the oil. If not found, remove drain pan. More than likely it is just sitting there. If not found there, could still be in the filler tube. Give a shot of compressed air down the filler tube and see if it comes out (after drain pan is removed).
#19
Former Vendor
I've had two engines die from this in the last year. One was one of mine that was built several years ago. the owner was adamant about servicing his own engine, and he did this not once, but twice! The first time it didn't do damage, and was found during a sump inspection at the end of one season, when he decided to install an oil temp gauge.
When the foil gets in the oil supply its very lightweight and is attracted to the inlet of the oil tube. It may live there for a while, but if the car sees high RPM or track use it blocks just enough of the inlet to reduce volume and lead to a bearing failure.
If this has happened, pull the oil sump plate, and find the debris. I HATE foil covered oil bottle necks!
The piece of foil that costs less than 1 cent, can easily cost a 20 thousand dollar engine.
When the foil gets in the oil supply its very lightweight and is attracted to the inlet of the oil tube. It may live there for a while, but if the car sees high RPM or track use it blocks just enough of the inlet to reduce volume and lead to a bearing failure.
If this has happened, pull the oil sump plate, and find the debris. I HATE foil covered oil bottle necks!
The piece of foil that costs less than 1 cent, can easily cost a 20 thousand dollar engine.
#20
Race Director
What I'd do: Go rent a cheap borescope from Autozone. Down the filler tube to see if you can see the foil. If you spot it, use some duct tape to join some small-diameter plastic tube to the business end of a shop vac and use the mini-vacuum w/ the borescope to fish it out.
I wouldn't do this blind (no borescope), as cleaning oil out of a shop vac is a lousy job.
I wouldn't do this blind (no borescope), as cleaning oil out of a shop vac is a lousy job.
#21
Burning Brakes
I highley doubt its still in the oil filler tube. When you run the engine there is significant amount of sucktion in the oil tube and most likely it already got sucked down into the oil pan. I would just start by draining the oil and see if you get lucky. If not then just pull the oil pan cover.
#22
Waiting for a Warm(ish) day to do this...
Wow - I didn't expect to see so many replies.
Thanks to all of you.
Unfortunately, I don't have a heated garage (old house - semi-detached) and I want to wait for a string of warm days to pull, inspect and replace the sump.
I will certainly follow-up with this when I get around to inspecting the sump. In the meantime I guess she'll stay on the jack stands.
Oh, any recommendations on sealant Drei Bond1209 vs Loctite 5900?
Again, many thanks for your advice.
Thanks to all of you.
Unfortunately, I don't have a heated garage (old house - semi-detached) and I want to wait for a string of warm days to pull, inspect and replace the sump.
I will certainly follow-up with this when I get around to inspecting the sump. In the meantime I guess she'll stay on the jack stands.
Oh, any recommendations on sealant Drei Bond1209 vs Loctite 5900?
Again, many thanks for your advice.
#23
It's been almost a year since I posted my dilemma and wanted to thank everyone for their input.
For those of you who may somehow happen to have this problem - the best and only advice I would suggest is this -> DROP THE OIL PAN!
That's what I did and sure enough the foil was sitting at the bottom.
For those of you who may somehow happen to have this problem - the best and only advice I would suggest is this -> DROP THE OIL PAN!
That's what I did and sure enough the foil was sitting at the bottom.
#24
It's been almost a year since I posted my dilemma and wanted to thank everyone for their input.
For those of you who may somehow happen to have this problem - the best and only advice I would suggest is this -> DROP THE OIL PAN!
That's what I did and sure enough the foil was sitting at the bottom.
For those of you who may somehow happen to have this problem - the best and only advice I would suggest is this -> DROP THE OIL PAN!
That's what I did and sure enough the foil was sitting at the bottom.
#25