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Old 03-29-2010, 04:55 AM
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Default 996 intake systems,, worth it?

is it worth it to have a cold air intake for my 2000 996 C2?
any noticeable gain?
any issues?
what CAI system is best?

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Old 03-29-2010, 07:18 AM
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What would be worth it and more power would be individual intakes with secondary injectors. That would be a good start for approaching getting 180hp per liter. Some nice flatside carbs would really make the car rip up the road. Instant throttle kick in the tail.
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No real HP gains. If it was that easy and cheap, Porsche would have already done it. It just sounds louder so you ears tell your "butt dyno" that the car is faster!
Old 03-29-2010, 08:30 AM
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I recently installed the EVOMS intake and took measurements of airflow before and after the installation. Starting at 4k rpm you pick up about 5% airflow and move the volumetric efficiency of the engine from 90-95% to 95-100%. Assuming the ECU provides the fuel you should make more power.
Old 03-29-2010, 08:48 AM
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How did you calculate the efficiency of the air flow? I think the original box and filter 'too little, you should put one of the GT3, or a conical filter as nlla 996 cup.
Old 03-29-2010, 09:32 AM
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Sound can be a percieved improvement equating to a gain in HP, but many might question and significant gains in power. However, it is a popular mod for many nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by gota911
No real HP gains. If it was that easy and cheap, Porsche would have already done it.
Sorry, Tim, but that's just not true, even though people on the interweb say it all the time.

No car manufacturer designs an engine with a single minded focus on power. There is always a list of engineering criteria, and often they conflict with one another. In the case of cold air induction, Porsche is bound by German noise laws, which are strict (these same rules also apply to exhausts, which is why the PSE was born). Companies like EVOMS don't have to comply with those regulations. It's therefore impossible to say with certainty that an aftermarket CAI is no better than the OE version, unless you have data... because we don't know what a CAI would look like if Porsche designed it for power alone.

Also, a CAIs are about more than volume of air. A CAI has to manage volume, temperature, turbulence and the pressure of the charge (relative to manifold pressure or something like that...). People grossly oversimplify these things. I'm not saying aftermarket pieces are better or worse or that one is better than another; I'm just saying that "nice noise but no power" as a generalization is misinformation.
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better money spent on DE entry fees.... if you find you are driving the car 100% and need more - THEN make changes
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what is DE?
Old 03-29-2010, 11:35 AM
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Disregard Ed.
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Hahahahaha (a$$)

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any issues of using cai?
I recall a member changing maf sensors as a habit since cai installed.
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Nixed reviews on CAI - new MAF is $400, not a gamble I was willing to take
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Evo is popular.... no cel. Just to answers your ???
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Originally Posted by kj217
any issues of using cai?
I recall a member changing maf sensors as a habit since cai installed.
This seems to vary by the brand of CAI, based on previous discussions.

If you're compiling data, put me down for four trouble free years with the EVOMS piece.


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