IMS Bearing Retrofit Labor time
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#18
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shoot that thing is so big you could put the p-car inside!!
holy Crap!
and Kyle, the C4 is a LOT more work to pull the tranny - seen it done.. not sure how the TIp and even worse (from a time wise) the C4 tip would be
holy Crap!
and Kyle, the C4 is a LOT more work to pull the tranny - seen it done.. not sure how the TIp and even worse (from a time wise) the C4 tip would be
#19
Man, this gets a little depressing when you're faced with doing the work on a C4S Tip
After seeing Kyle's thread on his IMS job, it looked like it could be doable at home. Then I read this thread on Renntech - yoikes! http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...total-failure/
Starts out bad and then goes to downright scary beginning at post #15.
Wasn't comforted by Jake Raby's statement "One thousandth of an inch separates success from failure in this game."
After seeing Kyle's thread on his IMS job, it looked like it could be doable at home. Then I read this thread on Renntech - yoikes! http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...total-failure/
Starts out bad and then goes to downright scary beginning at post #15.
Wasn't comforted by Jake Raby's statement "One thousandth of an inch separates success from failure in this game."
#22
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Man, this gets a little depressing when you're faced with doing the work on a C4S Tip
After seeing Kyle's thread on his IMS job, it looked like it could be doable at home. Then I read this thread on Renntech - yoikes! http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...total-failure/
Starts out bad and then goes to downright scary beginning at post #15.
Wasn't comforted by Jake Raby's statement "One thousandth of an inch separates success from failure in this game."
After seeing Kyle's thread on his IMS job, it looked like it could be doable at home. Then I read this thread on Renntech - yoikes! http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...total-failure/
Starts out bad and then goes to downright scary beginning at post #15.
Wasn't comforted by Jake Raby's statement "One thousandth of an inch separates success from failure in this game."
Raby is right, YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. I learned that lesson while taking apart my TV while it was on. That damn flyback transformer in an old CRT tv packs a frickin punch. I also learned it again when I touched the spark plug on my running minibike. COMMON SENSE. I guess that is even learned.
It is my opinion he didnt have the puller on the bearing correctly or he simply rushed and tried to pull it out at one shot. VS putting on some pressure and waiting for a while. Sad part about it is, You are going to have some train wrecks. It isnt anything 14 grand will not fix. Its only money and I get more on Firday.
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and Kyle, the C4 is a LOT more work to pull the tranny - seen it done.. not sure how the TIp and even worse (from a time wise) the C4 tip would be
#24
Kyle your thread was an inspiration, and I've taken on a few projects on my old SC that I almost can't believe I attempted - but was successful in the end.
I'd like to do the same thing here, but the signs (AWD & Tip) point to bringing it to my indy and paying him to tackle it...which to me feels like giving up.
The wife (and myself) wouldn't be too happy if something catastrophic happens on my watch, even though it's not all about the $$ saved.
I'd like to do the same thing here, but the signs (AWD & Tip) point to bringing it to my indy and paying him to tackle it...which to me feels like giving up.
The wife (and myself) wouldn't be too happy if something catastrophic happens on my watch, even though it's not all about the $$ saved.
#25
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Kyle your thread was an inspiration, and I've taken on a few projects on my old SC that I almost can't believe I attempted - but was successful in the end.
I'd like to do the same thing here, but the signs (AWD & Tip) point to bringing it to my indy and paying him to tackle it...which to me feels like giving up.
The wife (and myself) wouldn't be too happy if something catastrophic happens on my watch, even though it's not all about the $$ saved.
I'd like to do the same thing here, but the signs (AWD & Tip) point to bringing it to my indy and paying him to tackle it...which to me feels like giving up.
The wife (and myself) wouldn't be too happy if something catastrophic happens on my watch, even though it's not all about the $$ saved.
You have to do whats right for you. If you were closer I would certainly say. bring it over. No worse gut feeling than screwing it up more on your own.. I have a mind set, if I mess it up I have to fix it and I keep going till I am done. Its not really about the money for me as it is the enjoyment of doing it. But I can tell you the savings of doing the work on my own, has out weighed paying for my own mistakes. Im lucky that my car is a toy. If it has to sit in the garage for 6 months from a mistake,, well thats the way it got.
I hear ya, Do what is right for you
#26
It all depends how much confidence you have in the mechanic doing the work. I have already
recommended my indi to another member here who got his damaged IMS repaired at the shop. For my
C2 Tip, my indi charged me 8.5 hours ( below $100 /hour) and he did an excellent job. Then again, my
RMS wasn't leaking and the IMS was intact. Basically coolant lines had to be capped off and braces had to be removed
to get the tranny out ( IDK if the manual trans have the same issue and if the tips have more linkage
involved for removal ....I kept the dual row as a memento ( maybe I'll give it to the buyer "if" I sell the
car or if the LN bearing "ever" fails.....). I say try to get a slightly better quote; maybe a flat rate for the
work since he's already doing two ohter cars. .02 BTW, sweet RV!!
recommended my indi to another member here who got his damaged IMS repaired at the shop. For my
C2 Tip, my indi charged me 8.5 hours ( below $100 /hour) and he did an excellent job. Then again, my
RMS wasn't leaking and the IMS was intact. Basically coolant lines had to be capped off and braces had to be removed
to get the tranny out ( IDK if the manual trans have the same issue and if the tips have more linkage
involved for removal ....I kept the dual row as a memento ( maybe I'll give it to the buyer "if" I sell the
car or if the LN bearing "ever" fails.....). I say try to get a slightly better quote; maybe a flat rate for the
work since he's already doing two ohter cars. .02 BTW, sweet RV!!
#28
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The only difference between a C2 and a C4 is three bolts on the cardan (drive) shaft and an extra bracket you have to take off to get at them. 15-20 minutes tops. Now a Tip may be different, C2 or C4, but I can't believe that is can be that much more time.
#29
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on the 993 C4 its a pretty big deal, I have not seen a tranny out on the 996 c4 yet
#30
YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. I learned that lesson while taking apart my TV while it was on. That damn flyback transformer in an old CRT tv packs a frickin punch. I also learned it again when I touched the spark plug on my running minibike. COMMON SENSE. I guess that is even learned.
Glad I wasn't the only one "learning".