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Old 03-23-2010, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
Drive it here. We will need a case of beer, pizza and a weekend.
I just laid some laminate in our RV..I suppose I could load up the fridge with beer and come on up...but I'd hate to pull the car behind an RV.


Old 03-23-2010, 07:46 PM
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very sharp!
Old 03-23-2010, 08:05 PM
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shoot that thing is so big you could put the p-car inside!!

holy Crap!

and Kyle, the C4 is a LOT more work to pull the tranny - seen it done.. not sure how the TIp and even worse (from a time wise) the C4 tip would be
Old 03-23-2010, 09:07 PM
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Man, this gets a little depressing when you're faced with doing the work on a C4S Tip

After seeing Kyle's thread on his IMS job, it looked like it could be doable at home. Then I read this thread on Renntech - yoikes! http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...total-failure/

Starts out bad and then goes to downright scary beginning at post #15.

Wasn't comforted by Jake Raby's statement "One thousandth of an inch separates success from failure in this game."
Old 03-23-2010, 09:47 PM
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awe - thats engineer talk....

we machinist's say "a mil or a mile... a miss is a miss"

0.001" tolerance - we dont need no sticking tolerance
Old 03-23-2010, 10:13 PM
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I have a C2 and had the RMS, IMS and Clutch done at 8 hours of labor.
Old 03-23-2010, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mtl911sc
Man, this gets a little depressing when you're faced with doing the work on a C4S Tip

After seeing Kyle's thread on his IMS job, it looked like it could be doable at home. Then I read this thread on Renntech - yoikes! http://www.renntech.org/forums/index...total-failure/

Starts out bad and then goes to downright scary beginning at post #15.

Wasn't comforted by Jake Raby's statement "One thousandth of an inch separates success from failure in this game."
He did something wrong there. Sorry to say that. Mine came out way to easy and all I am is a guy that as a kid, got more enjoyment out of taking his toys apart to see how they worked rather than playing with them. Im not a master wrench. Never even ever been paid to work on a car. I am ASE certified in AC. Dont ask me how that happened, I have no idea.

Raby is right, YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. I learned that lesson while taking apart my TV while it was on. That damn flyback transformer in an old CRT tv packs a frickin punch. I also learned it again when I touched the spark plug on my running minibike. COMMON SENSE. I guess that is even learned.

It is my opinion he didnt have the puller on the bearing correctly or he simply rushed and tried to pull it out at one shot. VS putting on some pressure and waiting for a while. Sad part about it is, You are going to have some train wrecks. It isnt anything 14 grand will not fix. Its only money and I get more on Firday.
Old 03-23-2010, 10:34 PM
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and Kyle, the C4 is a LOT more work to pull the tranny - seen it done.. not sure how the TIp and even worse (from a time wise) the C4 tip would be
Miy C4 transmission was just removed and replaced. 3 hours out and 3 hours in.
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Kyle your thread was an inspiration, and I've taken on a few projects on my old SC that I almost can't believe I attempted - but was successful in the end.

I'd like to do the same thing here, but the signs (AWD & Tip) point to bringing it to my indy and paying him to tackle it...which to me feels like giving up.

The wife (and myself) wouldn't be too happy if something catastrophic happens on my watch, even though it's not all about the $$ saved.
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Originally Posted by fbgh2o
Miy C4 transmission was just removed and replaced. 3 hours out and 3 hours in.
Originally Posted by mtl911sc
Kyle your thread was an inspiration, and I've taken on a few projects on my old SC that I almost can't believe I attempted - but was successful in the end.

I'd like to do the same thing here, but the signs (AWD & Tip) point to bringing it to my indy and paying him to tackle it...which to me feels like giving up.

The wife (and myself) wouldn't be too happy if something catastrophic happens on my watch, even though it's not all about the $$ saved.
I agree fellas But that guys issue wasnt getting the trans out. It was pulling the bearing. I think the 4wd and the AT certainly adds some hours. But I do not think it adds to the level of difficulty or skill needed.

You have to do whats right for you. If you were closer I would certainly say. bring it over. No worse gut feeling than screwing it up more on your own.. I have a mind set, if I mess it up I have to fix it and I keep going till I am done. Its not really about the money for me as it is the enjoyment of doing it. But I can tell you the savings of doing the work on my own, has out weighed paying for my own mistakes. Im lucky that my car is a toy. If it has to sit in the garage for 6 months from a mistake,, well thats the way it got.

I hear ya, Do what is right for you
Old 03-23-2010, 10:51 PM
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It all depends how much confidence you have in the mechanic doing the work. I have already

recommended my indi to another member here who got his damaged IMS repaired at the shop. For my

C2 Tip, my indi charged me 8.5 hours ( below $100 /hour) and he did an excellent job. Then again, my

RMS wasn't leaking and the IMS was intact. Basically coolant lines had to be capped off and braces had to be removed

to get the tranny out ( IDK if the manual trans have the same issue and if the tips have more linkage

involved for removal ....I kept the dual row as a memento ( maybe I'll give it to the buyer "if" I sell the

car or if the LN bearing "ever" fails.....). I say try to get a slightly better quote; maybe a flat rate for the

work since he's already doing two ohter cars. .02 BTW, sweet RV!!
Old 03-24-2010, 12:17 AM
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RXJOHN:

If you plan on keeping the car for along time - pay the Mech and go for it...

99C2
Old 03-24-2010, 12:34 PM
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The only difference between a C2 and a C4 is three bolts on the cardan (drive) shaft and an extra bracket you have to take off to get at them. 15-20 minutes tops. Now a Tip may be different, C2 or C4, but I can't believe that is can be that much more time.
Old 03-24-2010, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dharn55
The only difference between a C2 and a C4 is three bolts on the cardan (drive) shaft and an extra bracket you have to take off to get at them. 15-20 minutes tops. Now a Tip may be different, C2 or C4, but I can't believe that is can be that much more time.

on the 993 C4 its a pretty big deal, I have not seen a tranny out on the 996 c4 yet
Old 03-24-2010, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Attack
YOU HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION. I learned that lesson while taking apart my TV while it was on. That damn flyback transformer in an old CRT tv packs a frickin punch. I also learned it again when I touched the spark plug on my running minibike. COMMON SENSE. I guess that is even learned.
LMAO - You just brought back some wonderful childhood memories for me !
Glad I wasn't the only one "learning".


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