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Old 02-02-2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chsu74
+1. I would buy one in a heart beat.
A group buy on a component like this would be a disaster.. The components require a lot of support. Ours are also serialized and matched to the engine's serial number as well as the vehicle's VIN for absolute reference.

Group buys are generally more effective for less critical, less specific components.. Don't ever expect these bearing kits to go on sale, if anything the cost will increase.
Old 02-02-2010, 02:16 PM
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YIKES - BUY NOW !!!!

shoot.... Jake dont raise the price till I get my tax refund PLEASE
Old 02-02-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake Raby
The unsealed side of the bearing faces out, so the bearing can be flooded with engine oil for the best proper lubrication.
See below

Originally Posted by ivangene
since I have no shame....I will ask.....

why OUT for oil IN... seems reverse (though I am sure you have an explanation that even I will understand)
I agree and thus why I put "it will become appearant when the work is done"

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would you be able to share the latest cost for this? Rennlist discount?
Rennlist DC,, yeah right, they charged me a restock fee on parts they didnt even ship.... But in fareness I shoudl state they were special order parts... But not a good way to keep a DIY customer, Especially when the guys goes "oh yeah we will use those parts no problem". I had to go buy my clutch elsewhere to make up the 70 bucks. I think the bearing was about 6 bills the tool was 70 I forget how much the new water temp thiny was
Old 02-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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Jake, Please forgive my lack of knowledge of the IMS. A Porsche master tech is doing the install, So dont worry. Its in good hands... But I have a question about it functionality.

Is it the outter race thats spins or the inner race? The reason I ask is, it appears the stationary hub flange get inserted in to the inner race and its a snug fit.

Next the guy doing the work has already said "Isnt anyway a duel row bearing is coming out of that case with out damage being done. Can you ease my mind and explain how the inner ring on the stock bearing callapes? Thanks
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Old 02-02-2010, 04:37 PM
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Any way you could shoot a video of your master mechanic doing the removal and install? That piece of footage would be INVALUABLE to us DIYers. Plus, Jake can give us feedback.
Old 02-02-2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug996InKC
Any way you could shoot a video of your master mechanic doing the removal and install? That piece of footage would be INVALUABLE to us DIYers. Plus, Jake can give us feedback.
If I remember the camera. I was just wishing I had video of that to watch.

I just got done reading the general instructions. With the custome puller and the currnet bearing in fare shape, it should be a snap. Basically the custome pulller screws on the support shaft and gets pulled out via the shaft. The only worries I have are:

If my bearing is weak, what are the chances of my inner race pulling out and leaving the outter race in the car.
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How does that inner ring collape on the duel row by just pulling on it with out doing damage?
Old 02-02-2010, 06:13 PM
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Sorry for the tangent, but Kyle that is one good-looking dog you got there
Old 02-02-2010, 06:14 PM
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Jake, Please forgive my lack of knowledge of the IMS. A Porsche master tech is doing the install, So dont worry. Its in good hands...
Actually that IS what worries me.

But I have a question about it functionality.

Is it the outter race thats spins or the inner race? The reason I ask is, it appears the stationary hub flange get inserted in to the inner race and its a snug fit.
The bearing has an outer race rotation, just like the factory bearing. The inner race is designed to remain parked and the stud is designed to ensure this happens. This is designed to be a snug fit.

Next the guy doing the work has already said "Isnt anyway a duel row bearing is coming out of that case with out damage being done.
Take this car and IMS bearing to someone else for the procedure to be done. This tech has been brain washed by the same people at Porsche that told us the dual row bearing was impossible to extract without engine damage. That was proven wrong over 200 times in the first six months the bearing retrofit was released.

I still hear this from closed minded Porsche Techs. When I bet them their paycheck that I can extract the bearing without engine damage they are silenced quickly.

The reason why it took so long for the bearing extraction procedure to be developed was due to Porsche stating that it could not be done. It took a few "outlaws" that don't play by Porsche rules to make it happen. When I was told that it couldn't be done it simply increased my desire to do it.

Can you ease my mind and explain how the inner ring on the stock bearing callapes? Thanks
I won't try to convince anyone of anything and I won't argue with the Tech. How does the internal snap ring release???? It BREAKS! As soon as it breaks the bearing can be extracted without further complication.

Find an Indy with less experience, one that is willing to explore and not play by Porsche's rules... The "MASTER" has too much experience following Porsche directives and he is pre-determined that this is impossible. We did it successfully twice last week.

Seriously, get a second opinion.
Old 02-02-2010, 06:24 PM
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wow.... didnt realize that thermostat was so big.

+1 on the vid... that will explain alot, and sell more bearings.
Old 02-02-2010, 06:26 PM
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Jake my indy guy is coming to one of your (motor rebuild) classes (soon?) - he has done the IMS retrofit several times (in his words) I spent some time in front of an open 3.6l the other day with him and we talked about your knowledge of these motors and your engineered parts.... your reputation in the "open minded" world is EXCELLENT !!!! - Like I said, i plan on doing this as a DIY and I hope to pick the brains of those in the know once I get to that step... thanks for your posts!

worst case for me, I have my guy do it and pay him....but for sure I wont be the one doing any "experimenting"

Old 02-02-2010, 06:37 PM
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ivangene,
our "M96 101" engine class is coming up in two weeks. I have been prepping for it for several days now. Glad to see your Tech is headed this way.
The first thing I told my students is this class isn't going to be anything like a Porsche experience.. Hell I'll even show people how to use their own brains and assemble an engine with only 5 special tools, instead of 20!

We are shooting the IMSR DVD in the three days following the M96 101 engine assembly class, so it should be edited and ready to go by mid March. Charles and I are doing this personally right here in my studio and lab.. It'll be the common sense way to do the job, not cluttered with techno jargon to confuse people..
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AWESOME !!
Old 02-02-2010, 08:01 PM
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I just had the IMS R and RMS done at the same time for peace of mind on my 00 996 by a very experienced Indi here in Miami. Charles at L &N referred a customer to him and another RL here just took his damaged 996 to get repaired. He's got Porsche experience from working at a large dealership here but went out on his own and definitely can think out of the box. + 1000 for L & N.
Old 02-02-2010, 08:29 PM
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Outside the box thinking, an open mind and the ability to follow instructions is all thats required to do this IMSR procedure successfully.
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Originally Posted by mtl911sc
Sorry for the tangent, but Kyle that is one good-looking dog you got there
it's a pug/beagle mix and shes an *******. Very very wound

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