New Owner, Intermediate Shaft Bearing Question
12-18-2009, 01:50 PM
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New Owner, Intermediate Shaft Bearing Question
Hi,
I own a small used car dealership and deal mainly in late model European cars still under factory warranty. But, I just bought a black on gray 2002 911, tiptronic, with 60k miles, comfort seats, soft look leather, advanced technic package, and 18" 5 star wheels that I don't know the name of (options sheet says RAD wheels). It's my first Porsche. The 997 has really been catching my eye but once I saw this black beauty and the reasonable price, I jumped on it. It was a CPO car up until late last year so I'm hoping most of the major issues that I read about have been taken care of. My biggest concern is the Intermediate Shaft bearing. I read on the Ultimate Preowned 996 Buying Guide on here that the factory has a replacement bearing and update for the shaft. Is that something that should preemptively done or would that be cost prohibitive? I plan on putting it through the shop and seeing if the 60k service appears to have been completed or not. If not I'll have the plugs replaced, oil changed, filters etc. done. Ultimately I bought it for resale, but the real reason I bought it was to satisfy the urge to own a 911 that I've had since I was 16!
Great forum, I've learned alot from looking through all the posts.
I own a small used car dealership and deal mainly in late model European cars still under factory warranty. But, I just bought a black on gray 2002 911, tiptronic, with 60k miles, comfort seats, soft look leather, advanced technic package, and 18" 5 star wheels that I don't know the name of (options sheet says RAD wheels). It's my first Porsche. The 997 has really been catching my eye but once I saw this black beauty and the reasonable price, I jumped on it. It was a CPO car up until late last year so I'm hoping most of the major issues that I read about have been taken care of. My biggest concern is the Intermediate Shaft bearing. I read on the Ultimate Preowned 996 Buying Guide on here that the factory has a replacement bearing and update for the shaft. Is that something that should preemptively done or would that be cost prohibitive? I plan on putting it through the shop and seeing if the 60k service appears to have been completed or not. If not I'll have the plugs replaced, oil changed, filters etc. done. Ultimately I bought it for resale, but the real reason I bought it was to satisfy the urge to own a 911 that I've had since I was 16!
Great forum, I've learned alot from looking through all the posts.
12-18-2009, 04:33 PM
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Forget the OEM replacement, if you are going to do an upgrade check on this one:
http://www.lnengineering.com/ims.html
Some IMS go for 100,000+ with no problems, others are bad with only a few miles. There are lots of posts on this. Doesn't seem to make alot of difference on maintenence, etc. That why you will see some go bad with only a few miles on the engine, and others go forever. Really a bad design. The LN upgrade is the only way to go if you are going to upgrade at all.
http://www.lnengineering.com/ims.html
Some IMS go for 100,000+ with no problems, others are bad with only a few miles. There are lots of posts on this. Doesn't seem to make alot of difference on maintenence, etc. That why you will see some go bad with only a few miles on the engine, and others go forever. Really a bad design. The LN upgrade is the only way to go if you are going to upgrade at all.
12-18-2009, 05:12 PM
#3
Hi,
I own a small used car dealership and deal mainly in late model European cars still under factory warranty. But, I just bought a black on gray 2002 911, tiptronic, with 60k miles, comfort seats, soft look leather, advanced technic package, and 18" 5 star wheels that I don't know the name of (options sheet says RAD wheels). It's my first Porsche. The 997 has really been catching my eye but once I saw this black beauty and the reasonable price, I jumped on it. It was a CPO car up until late last year so I'm hoping most of the major issues that I read about have been taken care of. My biggest concern is the Intermediate Shaft bearing. I read on the Ultimate Preowned 996 Buying Guide on here that the factory has a replacement bearing and update for the shaft. Is that something that should preemptively done or would that be cost prohibitive? I plan on putting it through the shop and seeing if the 60k service appears to have been completed or not. If not I'll have the plugs replaced, oil changed, filters etc. done. Ultimately I bought it for resale, but the real reason I bought it was to satisfy the urge to own a 911 that I've had since I was 16!
Great forum, I've learned alot from looking through all the posts.
I own a small used car dealership and deal mainly in late model European cars still under factory warranty. But, I just bought a black on gray 2002 911, tiptronic, with 60k miles, comfort seats, soft look leather, advanced technic package, and 18" 5 star wheels that I don't know the name of (options sheet says RAD wheels). It's my first Porsche. The 997 has really been catching my eye but once I saw this black beauty and the reasonable price, I jumped on it. It was a CPO car up until late last year so I'm hoping most of the major issues that I read about have been taken care of. My biggest concern is the Intermediate Shaft bearing. I read on the Ultimate Preowned 996 Buying Guide on here that the factory has a replacement bearing and update for the shaft. Is that something that should preemptively done or would that be cost prohibitive? I plan on putting it through the shop and seeing if the 60k service appears to have been completed or not. If not I'll have the plugs replaced, oil changed, filters etc. done. Ultimately I bought it for resale, but the real reason I bought it was to satisfy the urge to own a 911 that I've had since I was 16!
Great forum, I've learned alot from looking through all the posts.
"...cost prohibitive..."? In my opinion, no. Around here, it's north of two grand to do the upgrade. Not bad for a Porsche. If you need to do anything else in there, like a clutch or RMS, it becomes a bargain because a lot of the labour is redundant, which is how a good indy would charge for it.
If it were me, and I was in love with this car and planned to drive it for awhile, I'd open 'er up, do the IMS bearing, update the RMS and eyeball the clutch while I'm in there. Pay it forward for the pleasure of driving the car.
That's one opinion, anyway. Good luck!
12-19-2009, 10:24 AM
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Anyone know who does this upgrade in Dallas Ft. Worth area?
Can dealers do it? Or do I need to drive to IL to get this done?
And about $2,000?
Thanks,
Can dealers do it? Or do I need to drive to IL to get this done?
And about $2,000?
Thanks,
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12-19-2009, 06:18 PM
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I was thinking of Jake's location in GA.
12-20-2009, 12:10 PM
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Ok, so another IMS question..which I'm not sure it's been raised previously or not..
How many IMS Failure have we seen on LN Engineering IMS upgraded engines?
How many IMS Failure have we seen on LN Engineering IMS upgraded engines?