Why are 996's so cheap?
09-28-2009, 01:54 PM
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Do all these cars have quirks yes, but if the 996 is such a great car why do they sell around teh same prices as a 20 yr old car?
Price isn't everything....look at the prices of c5 Vettes now. AMAZING deals for the price and they are great cars. You can get a 03' z06 with low mileage for $20k....oh and hey those ls engines can easily last over 300k+.
I was looking at a 996, but everytime I called on one the dealer or mechanic said don't buy a 99 or 00 996. why is that?
If you mechanic is telling you stay away from those years then he is misinformed,it's a know issue that m96 water cooled Boxster and 911s(non-gt1 based engine) have engine blowing problems for one reason or another. But hey older 911s have to have their valves adjusted and are twice as hard to do any regular tune-up work on...pick your poison.
Price isn't everything....look at the prices of c5 Vettes now. AMAZING deals for the price and they are great cars. You can get a 03' z06 with low mileage for $20k....oh and hey those ls engines can easily last over 300k+.
I was looking at a 996, but everytime I called on one the dealer or mechanic said don't buy a 99 or 00 996. why is that?
If you mechanic is telling you stay away from those years then he is misinformed,it's a know issue that m96 water cooled Boxster and 911s(non-gt1 based engine) have engine blowing problems for one reason or another. But hey older 911s have to have their valves adjusted and are twice as hard to do any regular tune-up work on...pick your poison.
09-28-2009, 01:57 PM
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But you don't have to believe my data point, just look at various club's racing results, and event the club car classifications - 996's are usually 2 classes ahead of (faster than) 964's.
09-28-2009, 02:08 PM
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5 or so years ago, it was the 964 forum that was griping about everyone disliking their 911 model due to the internet overblowing the issues including dual mass flywheel failures, engine head seal failures, PDAS/ABS failures, brake fluid hydraulic problems, oil leaks, electrical quirks, airbag issues, distributor belt failures, valve guides burning up, windshield frames rusting through after replacement, cabrio top struts failing...
09-28-2009, 02:30 PM
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5 or so years ago, it was the 964 forum that was griping about everyone disliking their 911 model due to the internet overblowing the issues including dual mass flywheel failures, engine head seal failures, PDAS/ABS failures, brake fluid hydraulic problems, oil leaks, electrical quirks, airbag issues, distributor belt failures, valve guides burning up, windshield frames rusting through after replacement, cabrio top struts failing...
If the people on the this forum wanted 993's or 964's.. or whatever they would have bought them, and vice versa for those owners.. what is the point of this exercise?
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09-28-2009, 02:37 PM
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Very true, the 964 was the "bargain/Misunderstood 911" for quite a few years.
If the people on the this forum wanted 993's or 964's.. or whatever they would have bought them, and vice versa for those owners.. what is the point of this exercise?
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If the people on the this forum wanted 993's or 964's.. or whatever they would have bought them, and vice versa for those owners.. what is the point of this exercise?
yeah, I'm cranky today!
09-28-2009, 03:12 PM
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ok I did say base 996 is kind of boring. Not bashing your cars but I think you can all admit there has been quite a few problems known on these cars. Also for performance the reports say 0-60 5 sec the 964 is 5.2 seconds and actually in testing did mid to high 4 seconds on all of them. So to say the 996 is faster. You will be surprised to know it isn't. Top speed maybe but who does that.
I am not bashing your cars but you asked why the vales so low and just giving my honest opinion. I would buy a c4s 996 or turbo but not a plain c2.
Funny thing here is I don't feel I was bashing your cars like some others put down the 993 and 964 regarding performance etc and a/c and heat.
Do all these cars have quirks yes, but if the 996 is such a great car why do they sell around teh same prices as a 20 yr old car? I was looking at a 996, but everytime I called on one the dealer or mechanic said don't buy a 99 or 00 996. why is that?
Best of luck to all of you but it is my opinion and yes I love the look of some of your cars with the wings and c4s etc just not the reg plain jane 996. for that you can shoot me
Funny thing here is I don't feel I was bashing your cars like some others put down the 993 and 964 regarding performance etc and a/c and heat.
Do all these cars have quirks yes, but if the 996 is such a great car why do they sell around teh same prices as a 20 yr old car? I was looking at a 996, but everytime I called on one the dealer or mechanic said don't buy a 99 or 00 996. why is that?
Best of luck to all of you but it is my opinion and yes I love the look of some of your cars with the wings and c4s etc just not the reg plain jane 996. for that you can shoot me
The Mini Cooper and my Infiniti FX have enjoyed lower depreciation than my 996. That does not mean these are "better" cars.
09-28-2009, 03:44 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYRlt...om=PL&index=29
uh oh 5.2 sec and 6 sec on the 996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhMQvAFkyE
c4 4.5seconds
I will wait for you guys. They are both fast with technology should come more speed..
enjoy what you have and I will do the same!!
uh oh 5.2 sec and 6 sec on the 996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snhMQvAFkyE
c4 4.5seconds
I will wait for you guys.
They are both fast with technology should come more speed..enjoy what you have and I will do the same!!
09-28-2009, 04:14 PM
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Motorweek tested the cabrio, which is heavier, at 5.0 sec for 0-60mph. Coupe is lighter. I believe stock coupe's number is around 4.7 to 4.8 seconds.
http://coochas.com/porsche/911vids.html
http://coochas.com/porsche/911vids.html
09-28-2009, 04:19 PM
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If your running a 4 sec 0-60 on a stock non turbo'ed 964 I'd poo my pants.
6 seconds was for a tip....if you care about performance you dont buy a tip.
Maybe your old school cars may feel faster....but they aren't. The 993 can argue for matching up with a 996 speed wise though.
6 seconds was for a tip....if you care about performance you dont buy a tip.
Maybe your old school cars may feel faster....but they aren't. The 993 can argue for matching up with a 996 speed wise though.
09-28-2009, 04:21 PM
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Quality of construction quality in an older 911? I dont think so IMO. How can you have an assembly line based on Toyotas manufacturing standard and not have higher quality than the hand- builts?
Quality of materials? Now that is an argument you can make about the older ones - but not everywhere is the older better than the newer.
Quality of materials? Now that is an argument you can make about the older ones - but not everywhere is the older better than the newer.