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Old 08-27-2009, 12:25 PM
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Default GT3 Cup exhaust and cat delete

We're thinking about approximating this exhaust using SS Burns' muffler and pipes instead of the shown Ti version.

We'll remap at the same time but what are the likely cat delete/CEL issues?
FWIW I have dual Burns version on my 964 with no CEL/codes.
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I thought about doing a similar setup a time or 13...even found a local shop to build it using Burns mufflers. However, I can't justify the investment of a new rear bumper to go with the setup and don't parcitularly care for leaving the stock bumper with nothing in the exhaust cut-outs since my car is primarily a street car with occasional track use.

I think that setup is the best compromise of weight, sound and performance. This is how the Grand-am teams run theirs too.

As for the CEL issues. Most guys who run cat bypass pipes will eventually get a CEL...it may come and go but expect to see it. Some have had good luck with the o2 housing extenders to get rid of the light. Looks like your car is pretty well track oriented anyhow so does it really matter?

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Yes- pure track car so I don't mind a CEL just don't want limp mode.
I have a GT3 bumper and need to fill the gap:
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Dave,
I love the look of the new car can you send more pics?
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I don't think o2 readings will ever cause limp mode. Look at JimB's old setup. I don't even think he had secondary o2's on the car period.

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Dave,
I love the look of the new car can you send more pics?
Dewd. I sent you a bunch- I'll re-mail them.
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Dave,

I have been catless since the beginning of spring. Only one CEL after a dyno pull. 02 sensors are plugged right into the bungs for the cat bypass pipe.

The reflash if custom can severely change the thresholds for throwing the CEL because of the cats.

BTW: interesting project... Is that a 99 but with a MKII nose that uses MKI light cut outs? Also are your radiator vents functional or are you still exhausting downward?

-Paul

Originally Posted by Ritter v3.8
We're thinking about approximating this exhaust using SS Burns' muffler and pipes instead of the shown Ti version.

We'll remap at the same time but what are the likely cat delete/CEL issues?
FWIW I have dual Burns version on my 964 with no CEL/codes.
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Thx for the cat comments.

The car is a Mk I with GT3 Mk II bumper. We used GT3 shrouds to feed the rads so the forward side vents are active. And when the center rad goes in, the center vent will likewise be active.
I have side lights on the way that should fit, but maybe only after some minor fitment work.
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Originally Posted by AudiOn19s
I don't think o2 readings will ever cause limp mode. Look at JimB's old setup. I don't even think he had secondary o2's on the car period.

Sweet, I think I see Motons peeking out.

This setup will just cause a check engine light but don't all CELs cause limp mode?
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Originally Posted by Ritter v3.8
We're thinking about approximating this exhaust using SS Burns' muffler and pipes instead of the shown Ti version.

We'll remap at the same time but what are the likely cat delete/CEL issues?
FWIW I have dual Burns version on my 964 with no CEL/codes.
Very interested ! Which Burns muffler were you considereding using ?
Please let me know,
Thank you,
Viking
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Something like this:
http://www.burnsstainless.com/cgi-bi...M-300-625-17**
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Don't think you need the 3" one though.

They make a 2 1/2" that's only 12" long that would be perfect for the confined space back there.

http://www.burnsstainless.com/cgi-bi...=SM-250-350-12
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Still working out the details. Stay tuned (no pun).
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In the can shown at the top, do you think there is a center baffle/divider or do the left and right gases just mix and exit?


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